ping darren - RE: [permaculture-oceania] Kleenmaid & Knives

Thu Aug 24 12:25:50 EST 2006

g'day darren,

not sure you may have been busy and missed my reply to your kleenmaid wash 
machine post.

i am interested to know what water a front loader uses to wash a load of 
clothes, are you able to help with an answer??

tia

With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

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May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

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>From: "len organicpc" <gardenlen at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: promoting permaculture and sustainable living in the oceania 
>region<permaculture-oceania at lists.cat.org.au>
>To: permaculture-oceania at lists.cat.org.au
>Subject: RE: [permaculture-oceania] Kleenmaid & Knives
>Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:05:49 +1000
>
>g'day darren,
>
>yep exactly what i say to people if you want good machinery you gotta pay 
>for it, the returns generally always are logivity of service and 
>reliability.
>
>with the front loader what does "bugger all water" mean for a 5 kilogram 
>load from go to whoa?
>
>tia
>
>With peace and brightest of blessings,
>
>len
>
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>"Be Content With What You Have And
>May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
>A World That You May Not Understand."
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>>From: <darren at permaculture.biz>
>>Reply-To: promoting permaculture and sustainable living in the oceania 
>>region<permaculture-oceania at lists.cat.org.au>
>>To: "'promoting permaculture and sustainable living in the oceania 
>>region'"<permaculture-oceania at lists.cat.org.au>
>>Subject: RE: [permaculture-oceania] Kleenmaid & Knives
>>Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:00:04 +0700
>>
>>
>>
>>G'day,
>>
>>
>>
>>I trust that this greets you and all well.
>>
>>
>>
>>Can vouch for the Kleenmaid washing machines. I bought a 5kg front loader 
>>10
>>years ago for $1200 and it is still going beautifully. Uses 1 tablespoon 
>>of
>>Aware & bugger all water/power. Can't recall the figures.  Design life 
>>must
>>come into your calculations with purchases such as these. Generally if you
>>buy crap you don't get longevity. Good quality knives are another example.
>>My knives from back in my chef days nearly 20 years ago are still great 
>>and
>>I'll probably give them to my kids like my grandfather's 60 year old
>>handmade butchery set.
>>
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>>
>>Yours and Growing,
>>
>>Darren J. Doherty
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>>Hi Permy Dorc and others
>>
>>Did you get a new washing machine as part of your sustainable house reno?.
>>I have fixed ours for the last time so I am looking for the most efficient
>>front loader I can get.   The Kleenmaid models seem to have the best water
>>and power ratings but cost around $2,500.  I read the choice magazine
>>article and the really efficient models were not at the top of the list (I
>>expect they save power by not washing as effectively as other machines?).
>>The choice article listed 2 samsung machines at the top of the medium size
>>category.  These machines are rated 5A for water but only 3.5 for energy!.
>>
>>Does anyone have any reccomendations for washing machines?
>>
>>Sydney water is giving $150 cashback if you purchase a 4A or 5A water
>>efficieny rating washing machine.
>>
>>Thankyou
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>John
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>>From: "Matt Heffernan" <kbanana at bigpond.net.au>
>>Reply-To: promoting permaculture and sustainable living in the oceania
>>region<permaculture-oceania at lists.cat.org.au>
>>To: "promoting permaculture and sustainable living in the oceania
>>region"<permaculture-oceania at lists.cat.org.au>
>>Subject: [permaculture-oceania] New Members Story
>>Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 19:39:16 +1000
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>>Gday all.
>>
>>My name is Matt Heffernan.
>>
>>I have just joined your mailing list & will tell you as briefly as 
>>possible
>>
>>what I've been doing re Permaculture.
>>
>>
>>
>>I  completed a PDC
>>
>>at Ecoliving centre Randwick with Robyn Francis last year.
>>
>>
>>
>> >From suburban Oatley in Sydney, Ive designed & just recently 
>>renovated(using
>>a builder) my 2 bed full brick house,
>>
>>changing the layout,increasing garden space,
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>>building 3 beds & bathroom upstairs for a family of 4.
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>>I have 6 solar panels facing Nth, Room for 2 more sending power back to 
>>the
>>grid.(just made the now defunct rebate)
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>>For the 1st full qtr Mar-Jun, they provided approx 35% of my power.
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>>They are fixed on roof & the gradient will be much better for summer 
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>>Working on our usage.
>>
>>
>>
>>7000 litres - 2 water tanks. (no space for any more).The rainwater is fed
>>through the
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>>house for everything using an electric pump. I have a sediment & UV filter
>>next to pump.
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>>When the tank empties, town water switches in automatically and fed to 
>>house
>>via mains pressure.
>>
>>We've had plenty of rain lately & therefore havent switched over to town
>>
>>water for 2 months now. Yeeha. (and they filled again today)
>>
>>we are using 200 litres per day which gives 37 days. 4A toilets, 4A
>>dishwasher, 3A everything else.
>>
>>Working on our usage.
>>
>>
>>
>>Used passive heating, cooling principles, plenty of cross ventilation,
>>
>>laminated windows - casement for wind catching. Insulation in walls
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>>and roof upstairs + sarking under colourbond roof, 2 whirly birds, raised
>>floor boards to be insulated soon I hope.
>>
>>No aircon but gas for heating & cooking.
>>
>>
>>
>>All Bio paints inside, No PVC in the ground or for water-in plumbing. It 
>>was
>>very difficult to
>>
>>decide on the best building materials from a sustainability & toxicity
>>perspectivre and in some
>>
>>cases pretty well impossible to avoid. Eg glues, laminates.
>>
>>
>>
>>I have the shower & laundry pipes diverted to a greywater pump
>>
>>and will be used for sub-surface around my fruit trees when required.
>>Irrigation channels not yet setout &
>>
>>considering alternatives. Reedbed would be great but space an issue.
>>
>>
>>
>>Backyard &, Frontyard orchard/food forest is very juvenile but so far
>>planted Lemonade, Grapefruit, Lime, Avocado, Banana,
>>
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>>grapes, passionfruit, mulberry, lilly pilly, with a plan to have about 30
>>fruit trees. Dwarfed where possible.
>>
>>
>>
>>Garden with veges all starting but slowly in winter. Incorporating herbs,
>>groundcovers, edible perrenials & weeds, wormfarms, as many compost piles 
>>I
>>can scavange up etc. Chooks soon.
>>
>>
>>
>>I love the garden and hope to produce all my fruit & veg in 5-8 years.
>>Seedsaving also. I am very passionate about health -sustainable local
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>>Considering future direction locally, particularly my kids infants/primary
>>school when they start. I work as a muso so luckily have more time than a 
>>9
>>to 5er.
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks for reading
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Matt Heffernan or as my friends calls me - permy dorc!
>>
>>
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