[permaculture-oceania] Electricity usage ofelectrichot waterheaters

Anne Burns wynstay at ozemail.com.au
Sun Jun 11 17:41:00 EST 2006


Steve,
We have a 200 litre off-peak system that was converted by the electrician to 
continuious heat with a button installed so when we arrive at the house we 
press the button, the system heats up to desired temp. then cuts out.  We 
can go for 2-3 days then we press the button again, to lift the temp.
We have been doing this for 4 years now with no apparent side effects to the 
heater.
cheers
anne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter McDonald" <petermcdonald49 at optusnet.com.au>
To: "permaculture-oceania" <permaculture-oceania at lists.cat.org.au>
Cc: <steve.burns at wvi.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture-oceania] Electricity usage ofelectrichot 
waterheaters


> Steve,
>
> We have a 125 litre Dux system to serve our shed. Although we live here 
> permanently now we used to switch the system off at the mains and only 
> turn it on for 24 hours when we arrived, usually for two days, and then 
> turn it off again. We found that the water stayed hot while were here and 
> we also wanted to ensure we didn't overuse our water resources.
>
> Switching on and off hasn't had any discernible adverse effects.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pete
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <steve_burns at wvi.org>
> To: "permaculture-oceania" <permaculture-oceania at lists.cat.org.au>
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 4:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [permaculture-oceania] Electricity usage of electrichot 
> waterheaters
>
>
>>I am interested in whether anyone else can  give personal experience of
>> turning a system off for an extended period (days or weeks) without 
>> damage
>> to the unit - I travel for weeks at a time and although I have turned the
>> thermostat down, I've been reluctant to turn my (electric) unit off in 
>> case
>> that causes some damage.
>>
>> anyone able to comment? (especially plumbers!!)  ;)
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Jedd has a hot water system
>>>  ~200 litres, tall round metal canister, effectively
>>> outdoors, ambient  day temps around 20C, night temps around
>>> freezing, left unused  for 7-10 days at a time.
>>
>> And asks
>>>  At what level of usage do these things warrant being left on?
>>>  Or rather, at what frequency of *not* being used, does it
>>> work  out better to turn them off?
>>
>>>From personal experience with a very similar setup (and with a family
>> routine of showering in the evening and putting off doing the breakfast
>> dishes until after lunch), I found that turning off the HWS at bedtime 
>> and
>> turning it on again sometime the next morning saved significant dollars
>> (therefore energy). I can't quite remember how much 'significant' was, 
>> but
>> I
>> do recall that it was worth getting up in the night to turn it off if I 
>> had
>> forgotten. Now, in a different rental house I have instant gas HWS. The
>> house I build will have solar, boosted by a wood fire.
>>
>> In summary, these things don't warant being left on at all, except during
>> the time that you are actually using it.
>>
>> Setting the thermostat a bit on the low side helps save too, but in that
>> case more water from the HWS is used and too many people showreing in 
>> quick
>> succession means that the last person has to wait for the HWS to get hot
>> again or get a cold shower.
>>
>> --Robert
>>
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