[Pil-pc-oceania] Any permies in Whyalla?

[tamara griffiths]

Any permies in Whyalla?

I will be back in my home town in a few weeks and am keen to meet other 
permies there.

I know that there were some strawbale dwellings put up there many moons 
ago...

I have the permaculture in Jordan DVD, which is most useful when looking at 
Arid SA.

Much love,
Tamara



Tamara Griffiths
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>From: lrvezz at aol.com
>Reply-To: permacultue discussion 
>list<pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>To: pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
>Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Methyl bromide | Regulating Pesticides | 
>Pesticides | US EPA
>Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:19:03 -0400
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>Thank you for the further reading
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>Rosa
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>From: Deb Guildner <bocor at bigbutton.com.au>
>To: permacultue discussion list 
><pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>Sent: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 9:15 pm
>Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Methyl bromide | Regulating Pesticides | 
>Pesticides | US EPA
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>I had only a little time between posting the references, which were linked 
>to the very valuable Australian NGO "National Toxics Network" website.
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>I trawled through a 60-odd page US EPA doc.
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>Trying to glean some useful data, I did not that the EPA has confirmed that 
>methyl bromide is toxic, including to birds, fish, and aquatics.  So you 
>wouldnt want to use the pallets in the chicken house or pond!
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>Generally, the likelihood of methyl bromide ending up in harmful quantities 
>in water is negligible, or so says the EPA..
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>It is slow to leach out of timber and walnuts, so clearly anything woody 
>which has been treated will tend to retain the chemical for a longer period 
>of time.
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>I suppose that could be considered a bonus, in that the methyl bromide in 
>the pallets will remain relatively stable, but I would be wearing some of 
>those thick leather type garden gloves when handling them.  Just to be on 
>the safe side...especially if the pallets are relatively new.
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>Re tyres, well they are toxic when burned, but may also be considered a 
>useful even if temporary windbreak.
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>These recylced otherwise waste products at least have a value in assisting 
>people to get their living windbreaks established. After that is achieved, 
>the pallets/tyres whatever can be removed to another location or placed 
>farther along in the zones beyond 0 and 1.
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>Hope this is of some help, as the initial establishment of gardens etc in 
>very exposed sites is sometimes extraordinarily difficult.  Though 
>recycled industrial materials are not the ideal, they nonetheless have 
>their uses, if used with care.
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>Cheers
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>----- Original Message -----
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>From: lrvezz at aol.com
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>To: pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
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>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:43 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Methyl bromide | Regulating Pesticides | 
>Pesticides | US EPA
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>Hi Deb:
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>I did read them, thank you.
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>We do not have running bamboo or any other "weed" that can be used. I have 
>tried on my block using hessian and shadecloth to slow the wind, only to 
>find that it kept on blowing around the top and were tearing away from the 
>bottom and top wires and my block is a lot more protected from the winds.
>Land fill is our biggest weed.
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>Rosa
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Deb Guildner <bocor at bigbutton.com.au>
>To: permacultue discussion list 
><pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 3:32 pm
>Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Methyl bromide | Regulating Pesticides | 
>Pesticides | US EPA
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>http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/reregistration/methyl_bromide/index.htm
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>Perhaps read some of these articles and make an informed decision about 
>possible risks.
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>From: lrvezz at aol.com
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>To: pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
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>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:45 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] fumigated pallets - conclusion
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>Here non returnable pallets end up as landfil.
>Because of this we are using them to subdivide the 66 plots in our 
>community garden.
>We have started to plant windbreaks.
>As our site is totally exposed, they will alow us some slowing of the wind 
>and by attaching netting above them we can create shade with clinbing 
>crops.
>Out garden is being created in a carpark of the showgrounds, our 
>temperature range is between -4 and 50 and our water is hot all year round.
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>Rosa Vezzoso
>Edge of the drylands
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