[Pil-pc-oceania] Permaculture lobbying

[Seb Klein]

Adrian has a few good points.
 A lot of permaculture thinking and orthodoxy revolves around the small
solutions, for which perhaps other forms of government and beaureucracy may
be more suited to hearing the permyword. Having said that perhaps the best
way to go about this is to set up a lobying group that determines the
relevance of different permaculture ideas to which departments and
portfolios. Definately water and food security should be top of the list.

Seb

On Nov 28, 2007 1:21 PM, Adrian Wedd <adrian at adrianwedd.com> wrote:

> On 11/24/07, tamara griffiths <scarletwoman at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Permaculture is clearly the answer. We need to get that across loud and
> > clear. Can anyone
> > out there get an audience with Garrett, the new agrigulture minister and
> > rudd himself? he is looking for answers and we have them.
>
>
> I must say i disagree and think it incredibly naive to assume that
> permaculture is THE answer - permaculture certainly has part of the answer
> but I believe the question is far too complex for permaculture to be THE
> answer.
>
> While it may be (part of) the answer for me, and many of us, don't forget
> that most Australians would think us fools if we were to assume our ideas
> work best for everybody. They think they have answers too. Many of them do.
> (Use and value diversity ring a bell?)
>
> If we do intend to push the permaculture 'agenda' on a political level
> (which i strongly believe would be of tremendous benefit) we will need to
> consider our objectives, consider carefully the messages we intend to
> communicate, the needs and motivations of the decision makers (and other
> target audiences) and learn to frame our ideas in a context that won't make
> us look like idealist know-it-alls.
>
> Similarly, if we wish to get our ideas seriously considered by the
> decision makers, 'we' might not even be the best people to be communicating
> our messages, being as decentralised and disorganised as we appear to be and
> with (i presume) little political lobbying experience amongst us. Perhaps
> partnerships with organisations and individuals who already have experience
> campaigning and lobbying for change may be more beneficial that a delegation
> of Poorly Prepared Permies trying to meet with federal ministers.
>
> Perhaps the upcoming APC would be a perfect opportunity to brainstorm and
> establish a working group which might engage other players to do some
> alliance building.
>
> A.
>
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