[Pil-pc-oceania] Pil-pc-oceania Digest, Vol 14, Issue 13
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Tue Dec 11 14:27:50 EST 2007
G'day to you all,
For your information.. this is just great:
http://blog.algore.com/2007/12/nobel_prize_acceptance_speech.html>
This is Al Gores acceptance speech for the Nobel Prize.
Very worthwhile listening to.
thanks...
Pam
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> 1. Doomsday Seed Vault in the Arctic (Deb Guildner)
> 2. Madge Digest 7th December 2007 (Deb Guildner)
> 3. Re: Doomsday Seed Vault in the Arctic
> (permaculture at apollobay.org.au)
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> From: "Deb Guildner" <bocor at bigbutton.com.au>
> Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Doomsday Seed Vault in the Arctic
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> Link to article below.
> Seems like sci-fi but (apparently) is not!
>
> Would that he would spend some of his fortune in campaigning against
> unsustainable agribusiness.
>
> Deb
>
> "Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Arctic
> Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO giants know something we don't
>
> by F. William Engdahl
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> Global Research, December 4, 2007
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> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529
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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:16:06 +1030
> From: "Deb Guildner" <bocor at bigbutton.com.au>
> Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Madge Digest 7th December 2007
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> MadGE - Mothers Against Genetic Engineering
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MadGE Network Victoria
> To: Deborah Guildner
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 10:48 AM
> Subject: Madge Digest 7th December 2007
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>
> Deborah, this weeks digest...
> Friday 7th December, 2007 - Digest No. #17
> 1.. Keep up the pressure - it's working
> 2.. Media - the more the public hears on this subject the better
> 3.. Must hear interview of Gus Nossal talking about the GM review
> 4.. Vulnerability of agribusiness and the food system in the face of peak oil and climate change
> 5.. Solutions to the previous item just outside your back door.
> 6.. Elegant diagram showing that turning corn into biofuel is a hungry fool's game.
> 1. It is more important than ever to keep up the pressure on politicians, State and NOW Federal.
> Victoria and NSW have both made very unpopular decisions not to extend the GM moratoriums.
>
> All the State Government needs to do to extend the GM canola ban is to change the expiry date to 2013 in the law, and gazette the change.
>
> It will happen if enough MP's received sustained and informed protest on the matter.
>
> Actions:
>
> 1.. We are changing the Home and Get Active pages to inform people on how to contact their Federal Representatives and relevant ministers to ask for testing and labeling. The contact details for the State MP's will remain as they will need to be kept informed of their constituents views on GM.
> 2.. Jenny Mikakos (Upper house ALP member Northern Metropolitan) has written a letter to Kevin Rudd asking for labeling, and outlining the lack of adequate testing of GM foods and highlighting the potential dangers. Please feel free to do the same.
> 3.. Get Up is running meetings next Tuesday to ask members what topics to campaign on next. If you are a member please consider raising extending the moratorium on GM and full independent feeding trials at the next meeting, or simply fill in this contact form with your suggestion to campaign for GM testing.
> 2. Media
> There has been a lot of media recently which means that at least the subject is being discussed and the longer we can keep it running the better.
>
> Jeffrey Smith was subject to a personal attack by Andrew Bolt in the Herald Sun and has been able to give his response.
>
> The attacks on Jeffrey Smith's evidence do not stand up to scrutiny. The claims that :
>
> a.. our intestines may be turned into pesticide factories is dismissed by saying the Food and Agriculture Organisation had considered (it) "is unlikely to present a public health concern". This is their opinion and not citation of extensive independent peer reviewed studies to support their opinion.
> b.. Dr Irina Ermakova's methods used in experiments that showed increased rates of death and stunting of rats born to mothers fed GM soy have been criticized. Ermakova's study was the first intergenerational feeding study worldwide of GM soy on rats. If the methodology is criticized why not repeat the experiment using a different methodology?
> c.. Deaths of thousands of sheep grazing on GM cotton plants post-harvest are put down to nitrate poisoning or the high tannin levels in the cotton. Again this is an assumption. Why not test the sheep and find the exact cause of their deaths?
> Tammy Lobato has been raising the issues of conflict of interest, market rejection and contamination. This has brought her both brickbats and bouquets.
>
> If you have any questions please email info at madge.org.au
>
> Green's MP Greg Barber made a statement regarding the Japanese delegation's visit to Australia and highlighted the additional hazards and costs that GM canola causes.
>
> 3. A must hear interview with Gus Nossal (and MADGE) on Bush Telegraph Monday 3rd Dec Listen Here.
> It makes clear that the review was only of trade and economic issues and not of the scientific safety, or otherwise, of GM.
>
> Asked whether he would have been the chair of the review if he wasn't satisfied that the OGTR's safety assessments, Gus Nossal bases his belief in the science on the regulator, Sue Meek.
>
> Interviewer "So you have a personal rapport with the person who is in that role as a Gene Technology regulator but did you also do your own background research before signing on to this panel?"
>
> Gus Nossal "Well, other than having followed the debate in a fairly general kind of a way, the answer is no."
>
> This segment is 30 minutes long and also speaking are Scott Kinnear (BFA), MADGE, Pacific Seeds and Dr Judy Carman. Dr Carman talks about the personal attacks on her reputation by pro-GM supporters and the obstacles put the way of her doing independent GM feeding trials.
>
> MADGE's interview is in two parts - the first is at 20.06 mins and the second at 24.24
>
> There are also questions being raised about whether Gus Nossal has a conflict of interest over GM.
>
> 4. Agribusiness and conventional farming systems are facing unprecedented challenges because of higher oil prices, increased demand for biofuels, climate change and the degredation of soil and water.
> This is resulting in higher food prices, called a "soft commodities boom"
>
> 5. Solutions
> The solution is to become far more informed about who grows our food, how is grown and where it comes from. Go to the Directory page of www.madge.org.au for a huge range of informative links
>
> Read this article on the urban gardening and then sign the petition to allow for watering of food producing gardens.
>
> This Saturday 8th December 1pm - 5pm go to Darling Gardens, Clifton Hill to become part of the Yarra Neighbourhood Orchard and swap your excess homegrown fruit veggies, herbs, seeds or seedlings for someone else's excess homegrown goodies.
>
> Harvest at the Prahran Market 12-2pm every Thursday highlights the best seasonal produce and shows how to select, store, prepare and cook it
>
> 6. Biofuels
> Biofuels are an energy dead end as shown in this elegant diagram
>
> Happy eating,
> Love Madge
> info at madge.org.au
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> From: "permaculture at apollobay.org.au" <permaculture at apollobay.org.au>
> Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Doomsday Seed Vault in the Arctic
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> Sounds like he's working with them Deb...
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> Original Message:
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> From: Deb Guildner bocor at bigbutton.com.au
>
>
> Link to article below.
> Seems like sci-fi but (apparently) is not!
>
> Would that he would spend some of his fortune in campaigning against
> unsustainable agribusiness.
>
> Deb
>
> "Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Arctic
> Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO giants know something we don't
>
> by F. William Engdahl
>
> Global Research, December 4, 2007
>
>
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529
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