[Pil-pc-oceania] Pil-pc-oceania Digest, Vol 3, Issue 12

[Linda Shewan]

I couldn't agree more. The soil is what the earth provides for growing
food. If we nurture and revere it - the land will provide a 'whole' food
for us, not just a piece of fruit or veg for dinner. 

At an academic level I like the idea of aquaponics  but I also read
somewhere that the successful aquaponics systems still have to feed the
fish commercial fish food to be successful. Not sustainable at all! 

As for hydroponics and aeroponics - I would be very upset if they were
believed to have a place in permaculture! My reading of aeroponics was
this "The microcomputer controller releases a pulsed hydro-atomized
spray mixture of water, nutrients and GROWTH HORMONES into the enclosed
air environment of the growing chamber." Hydroponics does essentially
the same thing. It's not even close to REAL food. 

I truly believe that a substantial part of the life energy of our food
comes from the earth it grows in. One reason why buying local nourishes
the soul so much more than food miles can quantify... I guess I feel we
need to all be growing a reasonable quantity of our own food so that we
all have our hands in the soil... the human race needs to reconnect our
bodies and souls with the land. Technical reading of inputs and nutrient
levels can only disconnect us from the earth and turn us into mini-food
manufacturers. And only while the computer sorts everything out for
us... 

Linda


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Hydroponics (niree bingham)


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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:17:53 +1100
From: "niree bingham" <nireeb at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Hydroponics
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With regard to the hydroponic / aeroponic etc discussion:

I for one would be very disappointed if permaculture became a supporter
of
these 'farming' methods.  Despite the argument that it may be more
appropriate for the cities or whatever due to space and rooftop
appropriateness (i understand this may not be your personal view Russ)
I
think we should be looking at ways to put plants in the soil rather than
assault them, ourselves and the essence of life with poor robotic half
breeds that people call food.  that may be harsh but i find the idea
akin to
cloning, battery meat/ egg farming, laboratory animals and a whole bunch
of
other stuff that I could say with my tongue only half in  my cheek. :)

There are many more benefits / products to farming or growing food than
the
fruit that it bears.  as we all know it can be earth healing, people
healing, community healing and the rest.  isnt hydroponics like a bad
version of Johnny's IR regime, pumping money in to change a system so
that
the higher power can squeeze every last drop of will and energy out of
the
masses only for the next person to have to pump more money in when
everyone
sees that the result is sickness and low moral.

Also I don't think that any organic certification group allow
hydroponics (
I could be wrong here) so I question the idea that there has been an
organic
version of hydro developed.

I am sure there is lots more to be said


Keep it in the ground, I say!!!!

PS I would love to know if this is all some crazy attitude I have that
would
be the downfall of all.  let the discussion flow!
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