[Pil-pc-oceania] Permaculture People's Party

[pacific-edge]

On 1/7/07 10:16 PM, "mossmans" <mossmans at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Many years ago, in NZ I handed out leaflets, and voted for a party called
> Values party, it was slightly leftish, espoused green things, sharing of
> land etc.  I always believed that my vote should be a positive vote
> 
> The effect of people voting for Values was that it split the vote and
> instead of Labour getting in the Nationals won (Piggy Muldoon etc)

The New Zealand Values Party did have a positive impact, however - it
inspired the United Tasmania Group (UTG) which almost managed to have a
candidate elected to state parliament. It also, through UTG members who went
on to found the Tasmanian Greens, have a longer lasting impact in this
country.
 
> At this time in history and in our climate crisis where do you think your
> vote would be more effective.

Can we realistically see many people voting for Permaculture? Does the idea
have sufficient currency in society and is there a sufficient understanding
of it that would encourage people to vote for it?
 
> Do an analysis of what people practicing permaculture do.  They quietly go
> about their business setting up systems in their own back yards.

And using it in their work, where possible, If people only use it in their
backyards then it certainly won't be a vote catcher, given that many people
do not have a backyord or, if they have, then it is a rental backyard in
which they cannot make changes. A backyard remains only a dream for the
increasing number unable to afford a house in this, the most expensive city
in the southern hemisphere.
 
> In a city of Sydney (4million) there are now 3 groups.  Permaculture North -
> booming with about 180 + members, Permaculture Sydney West - Wentworthville
> area about 30 members, oh and a fledgling group in Campbelltown area of
> about 10 or is that 4 people. With a few scattered around the greater basin
> area ?50  That adds up to about 260 people.. Wow!!

Not everyone who has done a PDC is interested in being involved in a
permaculture movement or group. They may just be interested in using the
philosophical approach in their work and community life.


...Russ