[Pil-pc-oceania] PPP

[kerry dawborn]

I'm a bit concerned about the speed at which things regarding the idea 
of a PPP are moving - I think it's easy to overlook the fact that 
whatever is done regarding something as big and public as a permaculture 
involvement in politics is going to affect and reflect on the entire 
permaculture community, and the way it is perceived, and continues to be 
received, in the wider community. Personally I would like there to be 
far more reflection and discussion within the Australian community 
before taking the idea of a PPP to the international community, or 
before other steps are taken.

This is a huge thing. It could have deep ramifications for permaculture 
on multiple levels far into the future. It may or may not be a good 
idea, but right now it feels to me as if a few people have just decided 
for the rest of us, to go for it, and are doing so in a manner that 
seems to completely ignore the principle of small steps, observation and 
reflection that is at the core of permaculture design methodology. It 
seems to me to bode very poorly for the integrity of a Permaculture 
People's Party, if it does not even in how it is created, follow and 
demonstrate permaculture design principles. I can understand that there 
may be a sense of urgency because we have a federal election on the way, 
things in the world are worrying and it will be a while before there's 
another federal election. However, I believe a development as important 
as a formal entry into politics needs to be carefully thought out and 
should not be undertaken in haste, throwing central ideas in 
permaculture to the wind, for the sake of short term expediency.

We either believe in the basic ideas that are central in permaculture 
and want to take a stand for them and live and act by them in the public 
arena as well as our personal lives, or we do not. I realise that it is 
possible to spend too much time thinking and not enough time doing, but 
the speed at which a relatively few people seem to be moving with this, 
without broad and deep reflection and a level of consensus within the 
permaculture community as a whole, is making me feel that they are *not 
*reflecting what I feel permaculture is about, and are not likely to 
build something that I can stand by. To me, a thoughtfully, consciously 
designed permaculture presence in politics could be a good thing. 
However, I have serious doubts about whether or not I could bring myself 
to vote for or support a permaculture party developed in the way things 
seem to be evolving at present.

cheers,

Kerry Dawborn.

Martin Naylor wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> You may as well see what groups around the world think - and direct
> them to
> the PRI forum for discussions...
>
> Hey and you're a U2 fan too!
> I like a lot of music the greatest band ever is The Moody Blues
>  
> i sent one to permalearnersuk at yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:permalearnersuk at yahoogroups.com>, I'll track a few more down, 
> if anyone as a list it would save a bit of time
> Martin 
>
>
> Business men drink my wine Proud men dig my earth
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