[Pil-pc-oceania] [Fwd: Re: PIL to Permaculture Australia? & lobbying]

[kerry dawborn]

Although, I find it frustrating to lobby politicans, especially when the
good ones get ousted, and the other ones do flip flops.  I feel it's much
more logical to educate the populace so that they will vote for the party
with permaculture ethics & principles (and doesn't do flip flops with
them).  It's fine to say that those permies who are politically inclined
can work within the existing main parties, but factional divisions play a
major role in preselection and ticketing.  I wonder what faction the QLD
ALP permie (that Robyn mentioned) is in... and if in no faction, then how
long he'll be in that role before being ousted like Elaine.  There's alot
of permies already working behind the scene, working in government
positions both local, state and federal... sometimes they can influence and
change things, sometimes they can't. 

Fern

Original Message:
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From: kerry dawborn kdawborn at bigpond.com
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:54:10 +1000
To: permaculture at apollobay.org.au,
pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] PIL to Permaculture Australia? & lobbying


It seems to make sense to me to focus on building membership of existing 
Permaculture bodies, as Fern and Robyn suggest, to help us in becoming 
more a more listened-to and effective lobby group - perhaps this would 
be a good use of our resources and energy, since the infrastructure is 
already in place. While we're doing this we could work on building 
lobbying and public education skills within the movement...

cheers,

kerry

permaculture at apollobay.org.au wrote:
> Hi Robyn, Tim and all
>
> Is it correct that international permies can join PIL, but they just can't
> serve on the board if they're not a resident of Austtralia (due to ASIC
> rules)?
>
> >From my survey on PRI's forum
> http://forums.permaculture.org.au/ftopic5230.php
> there's a couple of international permies who have just become aware of
PIL
> and have indicated interest in joining.
>
> In my opinion, if PIL is promoted more it's membership will rise.
>
> Perhaps PIL can still have an international arm, but a national
> "Permaculture Australia" body, like Permaculture UK has?  They seem to
have
> a good working model there.
>
> I agree with Robyn that permaculture needs a higher public profile,
> credibility and large membership base to be an effective lobby.
>
> I have managed to meet with John Thwaites (although briefly) and Elaine
> Carbines (who was Environmental Secretary and MP for Geelong Province). 
> She was great!  She really listened and even came on a field trip! 
> Unfortunately at the last state election, her party (ALP) put her third on
> the ticket, and she fell behind the Greens candidate (Marcus Ward), and
> then all of her above the line (ALP) preferences went to the DLP, and the
> DLP got in (on a 2% primary vote).
> Persistence is needed when lobbying, I didn't just send one email or one
> phone call... but if an organisation has a large membership base, then
it's
> easier and you are listened to more by the pollies.  They (or their
> assistants/advisors) always ask you about your membership base.
>
> Cheers!
> Fern
> Otways & Coast Bioregion    
>
>
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