[Pil-pc-oceania] Jim's Permaculture

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Mon Jul 9 19:45:59 EST 2007


What they seem to need, rather than employees, is to set up a small business
with the PDC as qualification, by the sounds of things...

Great to see businesses start to refocus on sustainability lines.

Just got a few questions though. Maybe it would have been good for them to
increase the skill base and require a person to have an acredited
permaculture certificate.

This is what they say on the website:

*******A Permaculture Franchisee must have a genuine concern for the
environment and a desire to promote sustainable living. At the same time,
our focus is on Permaculture as a business rather than a hobby. Construction
work should be charged at a minimum rate of $35 per hour, and design work at
least $50 per hour. Our Franchisees are highly skilled and dedicated
professionals, and deserve to be paid as such.

A Permaculture Franchisee is a Mowing Franchisee who has done our one-week
Mowing induction course, which covers a wide range of business and gardening
topics. They have also done an 80 hour Permaculture course which licenses
them to do Permaculture Designs. Depending on their interests and the number
of leads available, they may organize the construction themselves and take
part in ongoing maintenance, or supervise another Jim¹s Franchisee to do
this work. In recognition of their interest and skills, they are entitled to
use the Jim¹s Permaculture logo on their vehicles, uniforms and
stationary.*******

Not sure that doing their one week 'mowing' course and a PDC is enough to go
and design peoples food systems and maintain them... things like design,
safe construction, pest management and maintaining fruit trees and so on
need a certain depth of knowledge.

Would you get a much better product by having as well as a PDC, an
accredited course graduate or a person with a hort cert, landscape design
cert or landscape architect degree or someone with years of practical
experience?

...Fiona



On 9/7/07 10:58 AM, "tamara griffiths" <scarletwoman at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Great.
> 
> Do they need employees?
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> Tamara
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>> From: "Naomi Coleman" <scpi at tpg.com.au>
>> Reply-To: permacultue discussion
>> list<pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>> To: <pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Jim's Permaculture
>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 15:50:17 +1000
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Jim of Jim's Mowing has seen that mowing lawns is not sustainable into the
>> future, and with this thought in mind he approached Dan Palmer and Rick
>> Coleman to conduct an Introduction to permaculture course for 26 of his
>> Jim's Mowing Franchisees. The weekend course was well received, and both
>> Jim
>> and the franchisees were interested in completing a PDC course that would
>> enable them to use the name permaculture in their business.
>> 
>> Initially we encouraged Jim to call the franchise Jim's Permaculture
>> Gardening, but Jim is more interested in being able to offer the whole
>> concept of permaculture design for clients, from house retrofitting, water
>> tank and solar installations, and  he felt Jim's Permaculture Gardening
>> would limit this potential. He also believes that it adds to the impression
>> that permaculture is about gardening, which is a misconception many of us
>> in
>> the permaculture community have tried to clear up.
>> 
>> Jim is fully aware of the ethics of permaculture, and is committed to
>> providing an ethically based business enterprise. Rick and I believe that
>> this is an excellent way to bring permaculture into the mainstream, and it
>> will provide opportunities for more people in permaculture to join a known
>> brand to promote what they do.
>> 
>> A full PDC is being conducted over weekends starting in July through to
>> September 2007. Jim has established a skeleton website and will add to the
>> website once he has the PDC certificate. He is aware that all franchisees
>> in
>> future must have completed a PDC, if they wish to be involved in Jim's
>> Permaculture.
>> 
>> If you'd like to check out Jim's website, its at
>> www.jimspermaculture.com.au
>> 
>> Naomi Coleman
>> SCPI
>> 
>> Check out our website at
>> www.southerncrosspermaculture.com.au
>> 
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