[Pil-pc-oceania] pregnant type 1 errors

tamara griffiths scarletwoman at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 10 20:09:30 EST 2007


Not sure I understood any of this :)
love T





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>From: jedd <jedd at progsoc.org>
>Reply-To: permacultue discussion 
>list<pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>To: permacultue discussion 
>list<pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] pregnant type 1 errors
>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:57:59 +1000
>
>On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, pacific-edge wrote:
> > Yes, errors do have numbers. Type 1 error is sometimes used by computer
> > nerds and comes from an arcane ppractice known as statistics. A Type 1
> > error is a statisticians construct.
>  ...
> > Type I error, also known as an "error of the first kind", an ƒ¿n error, 
>or a
> > "false positive": the error of rejecting a null hypothesis when it is
> > actually true.
>
>  Russ,
>
>  I don't think this is how some permies are now annexing the term.
>
>  Bill recently (but perhaps was reiterating) suggested:
>   "There are things I call type- one errors. The first one is
>     I say is, for Christ's sake, don't move into a forest if you
>     want to feed yourself because you're going to have to destroy
>     the forest to feed yourself. That's a type one error. Once you
>     make that error, error after error will follow."
>
>  From what I've seen, the term 'type 1' is being used to mean
>  fundamental, perhaps original, possibly initial or causal (of
>  subsequent errors).
>
>  It certainly saves a few characters over using an English word that
>  most people have a passing familiarity of .. and doubtless keeps the
>  uninitiated at bay.  Unless you were on the inside you wouldn't
>  know what 'type 1' means, but any idiot that stayed awake at school
>  up to the age of 10 could probably understand 'fundamental'.
>
>  Jedd.
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