[Pil-pc-oceania] Permaculture Trade Directory - no hoo-haa

[Deb Guildner]

And furthermore, I won't be having a policing role, it will be an honesty 
system WITH a disclaimer, it will be up to individual practitioners to 
supply the proof of qualification, license details, etc etc, to whichever 
employer demands it.

BTW I recently phoned Workcover here in SA, the Govt. workers compo Dept., 
and providing one is doing no more than $9,000 per year at any individual's 
property, you don't need insurace for work injury, if you are a direct 
employee of that person.   If you have  business name rather than just work 
in your own name and you employ a sidekick, that may be different.

If you spill organic fertiliser on their Gucci shoes that is also a 
different story.

cheers
Deb

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jedd" <jedd at progsoc.org>
To: "permacultue discussion list" 
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Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Jim's Permaculture


> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Linda Shewan wrote:
>> I am starting to feel quite anxious about the direction of this
>> thread.
>
> I'd suggest that you shouldn't.
>
> As I see it, there are some people we don't know, about to
> do some stuff (the details of which we don't know) but which
> we probably feel is A Good Thing for them to be doing, and
> ultimately there's roughly nothing that anyone here can do to
> change it anyway.
>
>> And who would have the right to implement such a system - I
>> thought the word permaculture was deliberately NOT Copyrighted
>> or Trademarked - or am I wrong?
>
> You're wrong that it's deliberately not (c)'d or <tm>'d.
>
> As I understand it, Bill did attempt to acquire sole rights to
> the word, but left it a tad late.  The intent of this activity is
> something I don't know, but I'd speculate it was part of a plan to
> provide better legitimisation of the science of permaculture.
>
> Which is pretty much what we appear to be talking about trying
> to do here and now.  Oh well.
>
>> If someone has very high expectations as stated in previous
>> posts then I am sure they will check qualifications, reference sites etc
>> before they make a decision to hire someone. If there is another
>> available permaculture designer with more credentials then those that
>> can afford the more experienced, and thus more expensive, options will.
>
> I don't think this is as simple as you make it sound.
>
> Using the most popular search engine on the net, there's only two
> .au sites shown in the first 20 hits (about 10 more than most people
> will bother scanning through).  Neither of those provide any clue
> as to an index of domestic permaculture practitioners (one of the hits
> is David Holmgren's site, which is slightly encouraging, but not all
> that useful in this context).
>
> Similarly, there's no way to 'check qualifications' of someone, as
> there's no central registrar, no way of comparing the quality of
> two permaculturist's output, and as with any skill, there's little
> chance that someone that doesn't know much about the subject will
> be able to determine how much someone else does know about the
> subject (a truism, and a common problem in all fields, to be sure).
>
> Jedd.
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