[Pil-pc-oceania] Permaculture People's Party

permaculture at apollobay.org.au permaculture at apollobay.org.au
Sat Jun 30 19:29:17 EST 2007


According to Tamara, Bill wants the PPP to be worldwide, not just national.

Permies come in all shapes and sizes (some people are better gleaners than
growers... I don't think you need to be a gardener to be a
permaculturalist), and those who are into the political side of things can
go that way, if they choose or wish.

Sometimes there's not much point getting involved in local council, when
the local council is dictated to by the state government.   The local
council being in debt, state government and state institutions such as RACV
and Tourism Victoria provide the funding, the local council has to submit
to their demands or have their funding cut/ not given to them.  So RACV/
Tourism Vic are able to build their 4 storey hotel resort complex on the
foreshore.
If the council objects, the developments then get taken to VCAT and then
gets overruled.  This process of going to VCAT, drains the local council of
their resources further.

I think the best way for permaculture to work (as a movement & worldwide
network) is both ways.  Both top down and bottom up, action & thinking.  I
agree with Declan Kennedy.

  

Original Message:
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From: Champagne brogopg at bigpond.net.au
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:21:35 +1000
To: pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] (no subject)


Well said David, I agree.

Top-down thinking \ bottom up action is a better way to go here. So many 
good things happening around the country at a the community grassroots 
level that its important to work and nurture these rather than expanding 
a whole lot of energy pushing ideas and policy from a party political level.

Surely most would agree that voting Green and a Labor victory is our 
best option with whats realistically available.Our work within our 
bioregions would become a lot easier with this scenario than the 
conservatives we now have. Sure, there are issues we have with some 
Greens policy but they command more than 10% of the national vote at the 
moment and to attempt to split that would only harm environmental 
thinking toward issues in general, with the media having a field day 
highlighting how divisive we all are.

If permies want to get active at a political level then I'd suggest the 
best place to start is at your local council level where at least you 
'may' effect some change at a local level.

Permaculture has trouble operating at a unified bioregional level in its 
home country and to suddenly jump to the national level with no form of 
structure in place is very risky stuff. A hell of a lot of energy needs 
to go into managing a successful election campaign and maybe the time is 
not yet right.

kind regards
John Champagne
Mumbulla Bioregion
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