[Pil-pc-oceania] Locating expertise in building natural swimming pool. SEQLD
Janet Millington
miltech at bigpond.com
Thu Mar 1 19:27:50 EST 2007
Hi All,
I have someone who wants to put in a natural swimming pool. I met a bloke
who did a lot of work at Woodford who told me he could do them. I can't
remember his name or get in touch. If you know him or anyone else who can
do them please let me know.
Thanks
Janet
If you have any leads I would be most grateful
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:36:54 +1100
From: "Matthew Bond" <mjbond at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] National Community Garden, School
Garden, Food Security and Seed Savers Conference
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> Will those speakers be there every day or only on specific days?
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:12:17 +1100
From: "David Arnold" <arnold.vt at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Peter Andrews
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Thanks for this review, John.
I agree that Peter Andrews' ideas and methods should be a welcome addition
to a Permaculturists' toolkit.
Peter Andrews seems to be focussing lower in the landscape than Yeomans.
Although Andrews is critical of some of Yeomans' suggestions, I don't think
we permies need to think of them as being contradictory or opposing views.
As Pc designers we are free to work with any elements of their design
suggestions that suit the landscape situation we find.
I have seen his presentation and have his book, which I must confess I have
not yet read.
Dave Arnold
On 28/02/07, Champagne <brogopg at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
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>
> Hi everyone,
>
> We had some discussion last year on this list about the Natural
> Sequential Farming concept advocated by Peter Andrews. He has now
> released his book, 'Back from the Brink" and encourage permaculture folk
> to read it as it does throw up some challenges for us in terms of what
> we teach on Design Courses about broadcare management systems.
>
> Peter Andrews does not have the overall holistic thinking that
> permaculture adopts however his material on the movement of salt through
> the landscape is new information and quite different for what has been
> accepted as correct and what we teach on PDCs.He also comes to his
> conclusions after 20 years of thoughtful observation and interaction
> which is our Principle 1.
>
> Most of what he says we have no problems with. Use of exotic plants in
> land restoration( especially willows), the value of mulch, seeing weeds
> as indicators and working with them and the use of the contour are all
> PC doctrine. He differs on particular aspects of keyline planning due to
> his understanding of salt movement. He claims that salt moves gradually
> downhill through sand pockets until it reaches the surface somewhere
> lower down the catchment.
>
> In a nutshell,he talks about dams putting pressure on the salt layer and
> forcing it down hill to break out so is not a fan of dams as water
> storage. He builds two contour channels across the landscape only metres
> apart. The top one is for stormwater run off which he keeps clear and
> the second one he puts vegetation in. As water moves downhill from
> these, the clear water from the top channel acts as a lens which keeps
> the salt below it and stops it from breaking to the surface.
>
> I'd be interested in any feedback on this and particularly from
> broadacre designers such as Darren Doherty and David Arnold who have
> placed plenty of keyline systems.
>
> Again, I'd encourage you all the read his book as PC prides itself on
> passing information on the correct science. Science is quickly evolving
> and we need to keep abreast of new scientific understandings.
>
> kind regards
> John Champagne
> Mumbulla Bioregion.
> Far South Coast, NSW.
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David Arnold
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:52:28 +1100
From: "Keith Stewart" <brooklynboats at integritynet.com.au>
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] What next? - Keith Stewart
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I am an old - PC Trainer as old as Bill Mollison.
Now back in Australia from rural Bangladesh
<FEEL FREE TO EDIT THIS, - 'Friends' >
At Umina. I am using our PC concepts and practice to grow my own veggies
etc in a very small place.
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Hi Franklin
at - Earth Repair Foundation
How are you? Friend ?
========================
I am ' tired '
As a friend - Advice - please.
I am sick and tired of 'Kicking a ball up-hill'
Both here in Australia and overseas.
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I'm now working my bum off, as I complete my, one year course.
Yet another, practical qualification - Certificate. at TAFE.
Cert iv - Community and Social Worker
First 6 months was theory.
This second 6 months is VERY heavy as we start to have to actually deal with
and be exposed to people, men, women and kids who have suffered personal,
physical, sexual etc - abuse.
Back in Australia. <Away from my 11 years working in rural Bangladesh>
'They" - Middle Class people, back in Australia have our Million dollar
houses and $5,000 Home Theatres and take their holidays overseas . - As - -
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At Woy Woy - in Australia -
We have 'Feral' 13 and 15 yo M&F kids living rough.
At My Umina male public toilet by our library - The yellow collection bin
for injecting needles often is often over full. So they just drop their used
needles on the floor, don't they?
People on the pension who can't afford to buy either meat, fruit or
vegetables to eat, and keep them healthy, can they ?
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Should I move away from Umina to, yet another, country town in a remote
place?
or overseas - away from Australia -
Where can I feel safe?
And make a difference ?
Franklin.
I am VERY tired.
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I 'Dunno' - Mate.
You and I talk about and try to 'Make a Change on Our Planet" -
Also - Your - "Earth Repair" - I honour you - Totally,
For those overseas who have no clean water and attempt ot live on less than
a US one dollar a day.
Where do we start?
I don't know - "mate".
But to be positive -
After many, many years - our Permaculture concept seems to be the best,
holistic way to live your life.
If you have a better way, away from Permaculture and its concepts, please
let me know.
I totaly 'Love' and respect you, Franklin Scarf and your Earth Repair
Foundation concept and work.
Keith Stewart - Who spent some 11 years living and working in rural
Bangladesh.
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:31:06 +1100
From: "Keith Stewart" <brooklynboats at integritynet.com.au>
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] PC in rural Banglash
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It was 'interesting' to make our PC systems start in rural Banglash.
But I made it work.
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