[Pil-pc-oceania] Pil-pc-oceania Digest, Vol 13, Issue 13
Janet Millington
miltech at bigpond.com
Mon Nov 12 13:33:32 EST 2007
Replying to Message 3
Hi Rosemary
I think your suggestion is an excellent one and the more diversity in
Permaculture Education we have the more stable and resilient we can be.
I support your call for further discussion. Maybe there will be time at
APC9 or we can do it informally in huddled corners in the evenings? Or by
the campfire?
I have to say that one of the reasons for establishing the APT courses was
so that the material could be fed back to the movement. But as yet there
doesn't seem to be a vehicle. Maybe a publication may help....a journal or
something of the sort that described the Diploma Students' work. Hearing
from these people should be informative and inspirational.
Kind regards
Janet Millington
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Today's Topics:
1. Easy being green; profiting from the carbon market (courtesy
Farmonline) (Deb Guildner)
2. New website for herbicide tolerance data (Farmonline)
(Deb Guildner)
3. Roads to obtaining diplomas in permaculture...from IPC8
(Rosemary Morrow)
4. scythe blades (Meadows, Joel)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:26:36 +1030
From: "Deb Guildner" <bocor at bigbutton.com.au>
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Easy being green; profiting from the carbon
market (courtesy Farmonline)
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Breaking Rural News : AGRIBUSINESS AND GENERAL
Easy being green; profiting from the carbon market
By MARIUS CUMING - Australia
Thursday, 8 November 2007
Farmers are becoming more resource managers and less primary
producers.
With markets for carbon, energy and even environmental stewardship
opening up, significant benefits are being seen for farmers across the
country.
Director of The Climate Institute and western Victorian farmer, Mark
Wootton, said farming had a very good story to tell in the carbon cycle.
"Working with farming organisations and the Conservation Foundation we
have calculated there is $2.93 billion presently out there under various
energy, carbon and environmental schemes and there are great opportunities
out there for farmers to take advantage of the present global warming issue
and be a part of the solution," Mr Wootton said.
Part of the figure is a $300 million per year wind farm revenue, but
Mr Wootton said in the future it should also be farmers generating the
energy themselves, not just taking lease payments from wind companies.
Meanwhile, CarbonSMART is a Landcare initiative that acts as a carbon
broker, linking businesses that want to minimise their emissions with
farmers who wish to sequester or set aside carbon through vegetation.
CarbonSmart project officer, Rob Youl, has calculated that in some
circumstances farmers can be paid almost as much for managing the land per
hectare as for producing a commodity.
"Let's look at a high rainfall beef producer in a 1000-1200mm rainfall
zone, making $300 per hectare per year," he said.
"With the right bush tender or stewardship program and being paid $18
per tonne of carbon in vegetation every year, I reckon that farmer can earn
up to $240 per hectare per year from environmental projects."
While the concept of receiving payments as a land manager as opposed
to a farmer may not sit well with most farmers, finally being financially
rewarded for good management of the land is something that probably will.
In future, practices such as no-till or low-till and rotational
grazing are likely to be recognised through carbon trading or environmental
programs, however more direct or practical market based incentives already
exist.
Under CarbonSMART, Landcare accredited businesses that are already
trying to minimise their carbon emissions buy carbon credits from Landcare,
who pass the payments onto accredited farmers, thus acting as a carbon
broker.
SOURCE: Extract from full report in Stock & Land, Victoria, November 8
issue.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:29:52 +1030
From: "Deb Guildner" <bocor at bigbutton.com.au>
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] New website for herbicide tolerance data
(Farmonline)
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New website for herbicide tolerance data
Australia
Thursday, 8 November 2007
Growers are now able to access more than a decade of national varietal
herbicide tolerance trial results simply by visiting the National Variety
Trials website.
The NVT program is an initiative of the Grains Research and Development
Corporation (GRDC), implemented in response to growers' need for independent
validation of grain and field crop varieties.
Rob Wheeler, researcher at the South Australian Research and Development
Institute (SARDI), is the national coordinator of the herbicide tolerance
program.
Herbicide tolerance data is also provided by projects with the Victorian,
NSW and Queensland Departments of Primary Industries as well as the Western
Australian Department of Agriculture and Food.
Mr Wheeler urged growers to visit NVT Online and view crop varietal
sensitivities to herbicides.
"Growers can select their state and see how varieties performed in response
to different herbicides," Mr Wheeler said.
"The data is there to provide growers with information to assist them in
making variety selection decisions for their region prior to commercial
adoption of new varieties."
Drawing on more than 10 years of variety trials, the results are contained
in consolidated regional reports.
"This new site provides information in an easy-to-access fashion," Mr
Wheeler said.
"Growers can download PDF files covering local trials, and see the results
of herbicide testing on newer varieties to determine if any are especially
susceptible to the effects of herbicides."
Mr Wheeler said 2007 trial data would be uploaded to NVT Online directly in
the months following harvest.
SOURCE: GRDC and FarmOnline.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:55:33 +1100
From: Rosemary Morrow <rowe at lisp.com.au>
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Roads to obtaining diplomas in
permaculture...from IPC8
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Continuing some items from IPC8. Sorry for the delay but Life
tripped me up......
At IPC8, there was much discussion and several presentations by
various people from the 'developed world' representing organisations
for accreditation, diplomas and PDCs. People from developing
countries were generally more preoccupied by the urgency of
permaculture outreach and need for basic resources for poor and
disadvantaged people they work with.
There are now several routes to obtaining a diploma and at IPC8 there
were four main presentations:
*Gaia University in USA which offers a range of courses and mentoring
for diplomas - I think face-to-face and on-line.
*The Chaordic Institute based in Spain which is particularly
interested in diploma subjects as valuable information for
permaculture worldwide and which offers its supervision on line.
*The Accreditation process to diploma in Australia which takes
candidates through four levels of certification.
*The Scandinavian Convergence model.
(Also, in Australia, the Permaculture Institute will confer a diploma
for $75 by submission of a portfolio of work and refereed by someone
known to the PI.)
The value of presenting for a diploma is the advantage to a student
of deepening knowledge and experience, and, measuring that by
putting a portfolio together. The value to the permaculture movement
should be great. However, in most cases, we do not learn of
valuable information channelled through the Diploma nor who the
examiners are. To remedy this, the Gaia University, the Chaordic
Institute and the Scandinavian Convergence model all seek to share
the knowledge obtained by the publication of the diploma topic and
details of the applicant. The processes for conferring diplomas is
transparent in these cases.
The Gaia University, the Chaordic Institute and the Accreditation
processes all belong in the field of formal education and as such
meet a need for formal recognition in a world increasingly demanding
certification.
The Scandinavian Model proposes that a diploma candidate work under
supervision for two years with two mentors. When ready, the
candidate presents their work to their regional Permaculture
Convergence at a special session of the convergence. Their
colleagues hear/see the presentation, can learn from it, and know the
candidate. Also people known to be doing challenging permaculture
work could be asked to submit work for a diploma so we can all learn
from them.
This model appeals to me as the most democratic because appraisal by
colleagues is the most appropriate, transparent and fair evaluation.
Also I am a fervent advocate of non-formal education. From my
committment to poor and those disadvantaged people, and work in
Cambodia, Viet Nam and Afghanistan where people are often illiterate
or unable to find the fees necessary to be appraised yet are doing
brilliant permaculture the Convergence Model would enable them to be
recognised instead of overlooked.
It is the most revolutionary because it by-passes the formal
education stream.
I was originally impressed in my PDC course by the Permaculture
Institute saying that after the PDC we did not need more courses in
case we get addicted to them instead of "doing" permaculture.
Fundamentally I still agree with this. However I also believe that
recognition is important.
As we have the PDC still existing informally throughout the Australia
and the world, alongside other permaculture training so I would like
to see candidates for their Diplomas, if they wished, able to choose
this route through the Convergence Model. This increases diversity
in learning and presenting. I'd like to discuss this more at
APC9. Would you be interested at a future APC (not this one) in
attending a session where diploma candidates present their work?
Rowe Morrow
Cherish the Earth
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:27:43 +1100
From: "Meadows, Joel" <JMeadows at portphillip.vic.gov.au>
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] scythe blades
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Dear Deb,
I'm interested in getting a few scythe blades and accessories. Do we
order through you, or just place the order through the Scythe Connection
and work out the postage collectively?
Happy to talk off list if you can provide an e-mail.
Mine is jmeadows at portphillip.vic.gov.au
Joel
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If anyone is interested there will be a purchase of European scythe
blades via Peter Vido at www.scytheconnection.com. Sent to a single
entry point which means cheaper mail costs.
You would also need some other accessories, but Peter can advise.
If you need a snath - you can either make it yourself or get one from
Ladislav from Melbourne.
Sue
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