[Pil-pc-oceania] Pil-pc-oceania Digest, Vol 13, Issue 29

pamela serendipity at picknowl.com.au
Wed Nov 21 12:33:43 EST 2007


For Bentonite clay check out  'Alrock'. They have a number of outlets
throughout Aus.
Kind regards,

Pamela Gurner-Hall
Lecturer TAFESA and Uni of Adelaide
Sustainable Design Studio ( South)
Landscape Designer and Horticultural Consultant
P.O Box 1054
Aldinga Beach 5173
phone 0419 213 237
 
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Swale building (David Arnold)
   2. Re: WORD for STEREOTYPE. (Kerry Dawborn)
   3. "Australian" Permaculture Convergence? (penny pyett)
   4. Climate Change in Election 2007 (Colin Endean)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:05:06 +1100
From: "David Arnold" <arnold.vt at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Swale building
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try a good rural supplies store



On 20/11/2007, Linda Shewan <linda.shewan at bryn.com.au> wrote:
>
> I have tried to source bentonite clay and come up blank - anyone know
> where I can get some from?
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tamara griffiths [mailto:scarletwoman at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 2:23 PM
> To: pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
> Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Swale building
>
> Geoff has run earthmoving courses through PRI. A friend of mine has done
> one
> and said it was awesome.
>
> Bentonite (a type of clay) or Gley (lawn clippings sort of sweated down to
> make an impervious layer is extremely useful for sealing a dam.
>
> I'd always use a "known" dam builder.
>
> Some "ignoramous" recently cleared an area next to the road, including
> mature trees, leaving only cyprus - which are a weed here!!!!! Councils
> have
> alot to answer for.
>
> Tamara
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-- 
David Arnold
Permaculture Designer
4446 Murchison Rd
Violet Town VIC AUS 3669
03 5798 1679
arnold.vt at gmail.com
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:56:31 +1100
From: Kerry Dawborn <kjdawborn at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] WORD for STEREOTYPE.
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Hi Isabella,

I enjoyed your site - good on you! Will watch your myspace site for new 
material!

cheers,

Kerry Dawborn

Isaebella Doherty wrote:
> Hi everyone.
>
> I just started up a new MySpace, (I know, I know, but when your a
teenager, and
> can't afford to make your own website, you do what you can), called Word
for
> Stereotype.
> It is for teenagers and adults alike to go and express their opinions,
> ideas and views, and of course two of the main topics are permaculture
> and global
> warming.
>
> If you have teenage kids, or just want to check it out yourself,
> please do, it's not set
> to private, so even if you do not have a MySpace profile, you can
> still look at it.
>
> Just trying to create something positive on the internet, create an
> internet 'community',
> make people more aware about important things, and steer them away from
wasteful
> websites (though I know most of you do not need to be 'steered').
>
> You can access it at www.myspace.com/wordforstereotype .
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ciao,
> Bella.
>
>   


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:04:10 +1100
From: penny pyett <pennypyett at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] "Australian" Permaculture Convergence?
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Dear Robyn
and others, you are quite right, names and wording are important in ensuring
the inclusiveness of people, in this case our
neighbours, in the naming of and invitations to APC9.  Words say and mean
something. They make
important political statements that are psychologically embedded in people?s
minds and can affect attitudes and behavior. 



 I can
assure you there was no intention not to include our neighbours or exclude
anyone.  It was an error on our part but
one we are able to easily rectify in our APC9 registration forms and other
documents, if we can get some consensus on the issue.  



 Instead, PN
should be best judged for what we have done on the ground to encourage
participation and inclusiveness of our neighbours and ?disadvantaged?. One
of
our members went to the recent Eco-show in NZ where she personally spoke to
permaculturalists and hand distributed many APC9 flyers of invitation. I
have
made several phone calls to NZ permaculture people, we have invited NZ guest
speakers and we continue to distribute news and information to our N Z
colleagues. We have heard that there will probably be the biggest contingent
of
New Zealanders coming to a national convergence to date. PN is also
sponsoring
two Aboriginal or Torres Straight Islanders to APC9 and we are always
looking
for ways to open doors, encourage participation, be inclusive and enable
access. We are able to put our money where our mouth is and do some of these
things
for three reasons, one, because we have a strong permaculture group
structure,
two, because we have the will and three, because we fund raise. What are
other
Permaculture Groups doing?     



 We have
checked the proceedings of IPC7 and find no reference of using ?Australasia?
instead
or Australia
at all. Perhaps it was another event? 
Until we get a common agreement on this issue, I think we will continue
to call it Australian as others have done in the past and for the reasons
Graeme has pointed out that NZ and others have their own National
convergences. I would particularly like to know the views of our NZ and
pacific
island neighbours before assuming it is ok with them to be included in the
title or if they don?t care or are happy to continue to have their own.  To
date no-one has complained.



 So what?s
it to be Australia,
Australia-Pacific, Australasia,
Australasia-Pacific? What does everyone else think????? Perhaps this issue
could be re-visited and go on the agenda for a vote at APC9?Penny




 PS. If
there is anything else you think we should know about could the elders of
Permaculture
with the movement?s memory please advise us (before hand if possible).



 

Penny Pyett President 2007 
Permaculture North Inc. 
(02) 9888 2575 or 1300 887 145 
"mail to: president at permaculturenorth.org.au" 

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:24:25 +1030
From: Colin Endean <kunmanara at mpx.com.au>
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Climate Change in Election 2007
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Hi all on the Oceania permaculture list,
As there was such a strong and lengthy discussion earlier in the year  
about the idea of a PPP - Permaculture Peoples Party, I'm informing  
everyone that there's at least one permie with many years of  
experience and dedication standing for election in 3 days time.

Colin Endean is the CCC - Climate Change Coalition candidate for the  
Senate in SA.
Look for CCC in your state and here's some links below to explore  
what we're offering.
Colin

Hi from Colin Endean of the Climate Change Coalition.

To save paper, trees and GHG emissions this is an email ?how-to-vote?  
card to give you an opportunity to find out what we are about and to  
invite you to look further into the issues, policies and concerns  
before you cast your vote on November 24th.

Our Policies are strong and clear about necessary and urgent Climate  
Action. We have the strongest emissions target of 40% by 2020 and  
mandatory renewable energy target of 30% by 2020. Our Campaign Launch  
speech declares our sincerity and determination. Inaction on Climate  
Change is an act of abuse against future generations

We have an opportunity at this 2007 Senate election to make a clear  
statement that we believe that Climate Change is the most important  
single issue facing our nation. I am excited to be standing for  
election on this issue and hope that with your support we?ll create  
the tipping point from which the Climate Crisis becomes our  
opportunity and hope.

Visit the Australia?s National Forum if you want to see about me or  
any other candidate in this election. Also my Media release to the  
local media in the Mid North SA.

Why Vote for such a new political Party as the Climate Change  
Coalition? Why not the Greens or Democrats?

Firstly we have the chance to name our outright concern about Climate  
Change and declare that we want action.

Secondly our intent and our reason for being is as a Coalition. The  
Climate Change Coalition. We know that success can only happen when  
we all work together, gain support and focus on the enormity of the  
tasks with collaboration and acknowledgement for all those who?ve  
been working, active and contributing to the cause for many years.

Finally, the Climate Change Coalition in SA is pleased to be giving  
preferences to those other parties with good Climate Change Policy  
and record. We?re preferencing the Greens and then Democrats before  
Labor. If you want the full official preference list from the AEC  
it?s here.

A few things that I have written for our campaign on a 5 Star Rating  
for negotiating a global agreement on emissions targets and what does  
the $100 per barrel oil price have to do with climate change?

Please consider this election as crucial for climate change action.  
Vote 1 for the Climate Change Coalition in the Senate from SA.

Written and Authorised by Colin Endean 1A Ware St Burra, 5417



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