[Pil-pc-oceania] Roberto Perez to Australasia
Steve Hart
stevehart at raglan.co.nz
Mon Nov 26 16:17:59 EST 2007
Thanks Robin.....if you can consider the air ticketing via NZ enroute
before Australia we could organise a few gigs here....to support the
funding agenda...Steve Hart
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> 1. Climate Change in Election 2007 (Colin Endean)
> 2. Re: Pil-pc-oceania Digest, Vol 13, Issue 39 More Transitions
> (Janet Millington)
> 3. GetUp (tamara griffiths)
> 4. Re: How long before the depression will occur? (Fern Rainbow)
> 5. Roberto Perez to visit Australia 2008 (Robyn Francis)
> 6. Re: Depression? (David Arnold)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:15:38 +1030
> From: Colin Endean <kunmanara at mpx.com.au>
> Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Climate Change in Election 2007
> To: pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
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> Dear All Electioneering Permies,
> Here's my take with benefit of hindsight, the morning after so to
> speak.
>
> Firstly, in SA we've elected Independent Nick Xenophon and it looks
> like we're electing Greens Sarah Hanson-Young to the Senate as well
> as the 2x2 Lab/Lib.
> I'm pleased and delighted to have the CCC preferences in SA help to
> elect Sarah. Supported not detracted.
>
> So, have a look at the facts and forget the "split the green vote
> line" and see that we've added to the green vote and collectively
> elected the Greens to the Senate in SA for the first time!
> The opportunity is now to build on the loose but aligned 'progressive
> green alliance' that ensures there is strong ethical preferencing
> support amongst the 'like minded' side of politics.
> I'll be putting these thoughts and words strongly to the CCC in the
> other states, especially WA and Qld.
>
> Secondly, focussing on Climate Change as the overarching threat is
> useful to broaden support and action for where we need to head. It's
> the path of Energy Descent, learning to live with using less - what
> we all know as the 'Permaculture pathways'. Climate Change has the
> benefit of wider publicity and awareness, of being an entry point for
> people to become aware of the wider societal and environmental
> threats and thus explore the paths that permaculture informs so well:
> Energy Descent, Transition Towns, Relocalisation. Permaculture has
> the wealth of experience in action and the principles to facilitate
> this necessary and inevitable Transition. The choices we
> (collectively, as a society) have are about how much design, how much
> influence, how much choice we have on this energy descent pathway.
> There are inevitabilities, such as Peak Oil and Limits to Growth and
> our choices will be the consequences of how soon and how widely
> awareness is raised and actions are enabled.
> It is my view that Climate Change is more likely to be that entry
> point, that doorway into awareness that leads to understanding and
> action. Helpful but not exclusively. Adding another useful voice.
> "Design from patterns to details". Probably this is where PPP fails
> to gain enough traction as a name - it doesn't reach the everyday
> parlance of the electorate.
>
> Thirdly, the Greens have a heritage and a history, just as the
> Australian Democrats have. Politically they have been very close to
> each other on policy and platforms, but there has been way to much
> squabbling or lack of effective support and generosity or real
> 'alliance'. There are those who don't want to vote Green or Democrat
> but are concerned about the Climate Change issue and the lack of Lib/
> Lab action or attention. CCC can be attractive and gain some broader
> electoral support and interest. To add 'diversity and resilience' in
> the parlance of ecology. "To Use and Value Diversity" as a Pc
> Principle.
> What's important is to achieve what has happened in SA in the Senate
> this election, with over 20% of the vote away from from the centre
> and towards the 'progressive alliance'. Could we raise awareness
> sufficiently to go for 20% plus or 1 in 5 voters concerned and
> supportive across the nation?
>
> Lastly a few grumbles from my experiences in these last 4 campaigning
> weeks:
> I would wish in future to talk 99% more about Climate Change policy,
> issues and Energy Descent Action than to talk about preferences and
> divisiveness.
> I'm astounded how the media entourage is embedded and 'on the bus'
> and shapes the conversations and discussions about challenges,
> political dialogue and the way issues are reported or more
> particularly not.
>
> Thanks for all those supporters and to the CCC for the opportunity to
> experience the melee of political aspiration!
> Nice to be back home amongst the early summer harvest and other
> fruitful endeavours.
>
> Cheers
> Colin
>
>>
>> In SA, Climate Change Coalition (1,2) has preferenced the Greens
>> (3,4,5),
>> then Australian Democrats (6,7,8), WhatWomenWant (9,10), Socialist
>> Alliance
>> (11,12), Xenophon (13) then Labor Party (14,15,16)....which seems
>> like a
>> reasonable placement of preferences...
>>
>> You can check the Stae by State voting tickets (senate preference
>> flows on
>> the Aust Election Commission website (www .aec.gov.au)
>>
>> Dont get conned by placing the LDP or Liberty and Democracy Party
>> anywhere
>> that matters....they are so right wing theyre off the scale, and also
>> preferencing the Libs above other serious contenders....they have
>> Ivan
>> Milats sister in law Lisa as their ACt Senate candidate....seem to
>> be an ACT
>> based mob which claim 2,000 members.....WTF????
>>
>> Fingers crossed,
>>
>> Deb
>>
>>
>>>
>>> In South Australia, independent candidate Nick Xenophon has split
>>> his
>>> ticket (meaning that if you vote for him above the line, your vote
>>> has a
>>> 50-50 chance of ending up in either pile) in the following way among
>>> parties that currently have Parliamentary representation:
>>>
>>> 50% of preferences will go to Family First, then the Greens, then
>>> the
>>> Nationals, then the Liberals, then Labor
>>>
>>> 50% of preferences will go to the Greens, then Family First, then
>>> the
>>> Nationals, then Labor, then the Liberals
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> still, they split the green vote!
>>
>>>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:21:58 +1000
> From: "Janet Millington" <miltech at bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Pil-pc-oceania Digest, Vol 13, Issue 39
> More Transitions
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> End of year report card
>
> A Transition Update from
> The Sunshine Coast Energy Action Centre (SEAC)
> Queensland Australia
> www.seac.net.au
>
> You'd think with a name like the 'Sunshine Coast' we'd be taking full
> advantage of all that sunshine and weaning ourselves off fossil fuels
> wouldn't you? Unfortunately that hasn't been the case. until now.
>
> In response to this anomaly, one of SEAC's recent initiatives has
> been to
> set up a solar energy bulk buying program. After just a couple of
> presentations we already have 20 people signed up and we're well on
> our way.
>
> Next step is for us to really shine as the 'Sunshine' Coast in the
> 'Sunshine
> State', [Queensland] (sorry about all the dreadful puns) and work
> toward
> ensuring we have the highest percentage of domestic homes solar energy
> systems in Australia.
>
> The Sunshine Coast Solar Energy Challenge will be just one of our many
> projects planned for next year along with a series of lectures and
> presentations on 'live local - live better' focussing on
> relocalisation
> activities.
>
> Our trial Energy Descent Action Planning course 'It's Time for an Oil
> Change' was very well received and we are set to run our second
> course at
> Caloundra - a seaside town with high density population - in 2008.
>
> This new course was written specifically as a way to generate a
> community
> driven Energy Descent Action Plan and deliver information,
> education and
> implement action strategies and outcomes.
>
> As for the EDAP, it's currently being written and we are looking
> forward to
> delivering it to local, state and federal government politicians
> very soon.
>
> We are ensuring this Australian-first EDAP is well structured so it
> will be
> well received by decision makers, so it's worth the extra time and
> effort to
> get it right. Hopefully it will clear a path for other Australian
> groups and
> councils to follow suit.
>
> Our community information sessions are becoming increasingly
> popular and
> will definitely continue into 2008. Word is spreading! Having a
> community
> education centre dedicated to informing the community about positive
> solutions to climate change and peak oil has been a bonus for the
> Sunshine
> Coast and instrumental in our move to becoming a Transition Town.
>
> In 2008 SEAC will also (pledge to?); **
> Expand our Outreach Program even further into the community
> Attend key expos and conferences in the region to raise awareness
> Launch communication campaigns based on relocalisation and energy
> descent
> Set up a specific EDAP website that will track our work and ensure
> we stay
> on track
> Develop new intensive energy descent preparedness courses for the
> community
> Develop community information packs on how to start local action
> groups
> Work with local key environmental groups
> Identify key groups in the community and build further partnerships to
> ensure inclusivity including Indigenous Australians
> Offer workshops, support and networking for local action groups to get
> started and stay motivated
> Offer Train the Trainer courses for other permaculturists to
> deliver energy
> descent action planning courses in their local areas
> Explore funding options for the Centre to expand our work
> Work toward establishing an Oil Depletion Protocol in Queensland
> Work more closely with the local university to develop partnership
> ideas
> Ensure we stay relevant to the cause and continue to address community
> concerns and needs
> We may be opening SEAC at a second location on the Coast. but
> that's a bit
> hush hush at the moment!
>
> Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and see you next year!
>
> Sonya Wallace & Janet Millington
> SEAC Co-coordinators
> www.seac.net.au
>
> **Although this list seems pretty full and finite at the moment,
> the speed
> with which everything happened in 2007, anything could happen in 2008!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:40:55 +0000
> From: "tamara griffiths" <scarletwoman at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] GetUp
> To: pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
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> I have forwarded the email below - Read to the bottom re
> conference...GetUp
> is one of the places pc could have a voice.
> love Tamara
>
>
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>>
>> What an extraordinary night - and now, a new beginning for Australia.
>>
>>
>> Last night, as we were in the tally room, we saw a clear march of
>> voters
>> back towards the progressive issues that we've all been fighting
>> so hard to
>> put back on the agenda - with our campaigns on climate change, a
>> fairer
>> economy, indigenous rights, and the war in Iraq all having a major
>> impact
>> on this election. And GetUp members have been right there at the
>> centre of
>> it all - emerging as part of a powerful people-centred movement
>> for change.
>>
>>
>> Last election we did not exist. Now we are 230,000 strong, having
>> built the
>> foundations of an unprecedented grassroots movement for the 2008-10
>> parliamentary cycle. In the words of one commentator, GetUp has
>> "evolved
>> from political experiment to a voice Australian politicians cannot
>> afford
>> to ignore."*
>>
>>
>> Allow us to express our profound gratitude to those of you who
>> have worked
>> so hard with us in this election year to inject accountability,
>> honesty,
>> and progressive policies into this pivotal election. Together
>> we've run the
>> most ambitious and effective non-partisan grassroots electoral
>> program in
>> Australian history:
>>
>>
>> - In Bennelong alone, over 800 GetUp volunteers campaigned on the
>> ground
>> over the last eight months, with every single polling booth
>> staffed by
>> GetUp volunteers handing out party comparison scorecards on
>> Election Day.
>> Your presence was unmissable and instrumental.
>>
>>
>> - Yesterday, thousands of you flooded polling booths nationwide
>> with a sea
>> of orange to distribute GetUp materials - ensuring that the issues
>> you care
>> about were front and centre in the minds of over half a million
>> voters. (If
>> you volunteered at a polling booth, tell your day's story here.)
>>
>>
>> - Our campaign to restore balance to the Senate is looking to have
>> succeeded, with the Coalition set to lose one Senator in Tasmania
>> and one
>> in South Australia - enough to end one party control of the Senate
>> (Victoria and the ACT are still too close to call).
>>
>>
>> There's a lot more that we could say about the implications of
>> last night's
>> election results and your work over the past six months, but
>> enough from
>> us. Join the discussion on our election blog.
>>
>>
>> Finally, we all know our job didn't end on Election Day. In fact,
>> our task
>> of keeping politicians from all sides accountable to you is just
>> beginning.
>> We, like you, will take the next few days to catch our breath, but
>> later
>> this week we'll be in touch with our new GetTogether program, the
>> next
>> steps with Promise Watch and our exciting plans for this grassroots
>> movement - to ensure the new Government builds the progressive
>> Australia we
>> all have in mind.
>>
>>
>> Today, we begin the journey to reshape our future.
>>
>>
>> The GetUp team
>>
>>
>> PS - GetUp's Refresh Conference, a national meeting of Australia's
>> progressive movement to evaluate the election, share skills, and
>> plan next
>> steps, will take place Dec 7-8 (Fri-Sat) in Sydney - and you're
>> invited!
>> It's fillling up quickly, so RSVP now - and apply for one of our
>> travel
>> scholarships available for those from outside Sydney.
>>
>>
>> *Larissa Dubecki, The Age, 29 Oct 2007
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________
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>> group. We use
>> new technology to empower Australians to have their say on important
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:03:52 +1100
> From: Fern Rainbow <permaculture at apollobay.org.au>
> Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] How long before the depression will
> occur?
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> Thanks russ.
> I was born in the late 70's and brought up by parents who were into
> self-sufficiency and responded to the oil crisis in the 70's.
> Although I haven't been aware of hubbard's peak oil graphs until
> this millenium, for all my life i've been aware of the upcoming
> world resource crisis and the limited supply, limitation and the
> pollution caused by our fossil fuel using society. And all my life
> I've been aware of permaculture and solutions/ alternative ways.
>
> Our local council, and many community members are interested in
> getting a EDAP happening for our area, the interest in this keeps
> growing, and many people were very keen after david holmgren's
> public talk in apollo bay. i'd like to start having community
> solution workshops and really start to galvanise this interest, but
> i'm finding that I just don't have the time to work on this
> bioregional level... I'm really needing to get my own "lifeboat"
> in order, and I can't self-sacrifice, i've done this too much in
> past and i need to break my tendency to do this, and I only wish to
> do community work that integrates my own needs, but l can't afford
> (time or financially) to do voluntary work, even though this
> continues to be expected and demanded of me.
> I do feel that an economic depression is imminent, and wish to be
> as self-reliant as possible, and to be equipped with all the tools
> I require, but I do wish I had the capacity to do more bioregional
> level work currently, but I just can't.
>
> Only action can result from my feelings and disappointment, no
> despair or anger (i have no time for emotional indulgences), but
> thanks for the warning. Although at times it's difficult not to be
> frustrated by the amount of work needed to be done, and not having
> the capacity to do it.
>
> Love
> Fern
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:27:42 +1100
> From: Robyn Francis <robyn at permaculture.com.au>
> Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Roberto Perez to visit Australia 2008
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> Roberto Perez to visit Australia 2008
>
> For those who've seen "The Power of Community", Roberto is the Cuban
> permaculturist that does a lot of the talking. Articulate,
> exuberant and
> inspiring, Roberto was a keynote speaker at IPC8 in Brazil earlier
> this year
> as one of the 3 Cuban delegates attending.
>
> The IPC8 Cuban delegates invited me to come to Cuba to provide
> support and
> advanced training in integrated urban and eco-village design. In
> discussion
> with colleagues on my return from Brazil, it was suggested that
> bringing
> Roberto to Australia to share the Cuban experience would be a
> particularly
> valuable thing to do, then send me over to Cuba, so the Cuba-Australia
> Permaculture Exchange (CAPE) was born. Roberto is keen to come and
> available
> to travel to Australia in March-April next year.
>
> There's quite a bit of fundraising to do to make this all possible,
> and news
> from Permaculture North last week gave the project a green light and
> considerable impetus. Permaculture North has generously offered to
> cover
> Roberto's airfare to Australia and will feature him as a guest
> speaker in
> the APC9 program.
>
> We now need to raise the remaining funds to cover his travel within
> Australia and journey home. I have managed to raise a modest amount
> from the
> workshops I gave in Noosa a couple of months ago, and will be
> hosting a few
> fundraising events here, but I realistically can't do it all...
>
> Hence I am appealing to the Australian permaculture community to
> support
> CAPE by hosting a fundraising event or passing the hat around at
> your local
> permie, climate action, environment group or other suitable meetings.
>
> You are also invited to register interest in having Roberto come to
> your
> area to give a presentation on his Oz tour so we an commence
> planning his
> itinerary. CAPE will expect host groups to provide support towards
> Roberto's
> in-country expenses and a contribution to his return fare.
>
> Roberto's visit has the potential to raise the profile of
> permaculture in
> Australia, especially as the Power of Community has reached a very
> wide
> audience.
>
> Any support with promotion would also be appreciated, especially
> some well
> written articles and graphic concepts for promotional materials.
>
> The other key are I would appreciate support with is in organising
> Roberto's
> visa and travel logistics.
>
> There's a couple of articles on the website http://
> www.permaculture.com.au
>
> Let me know if you can assist with any of the above or if you'd
> like to be
> included on the email list for regular CAPE updates
>
> In solidarity for sustainability....
>
> Ciao
>
> Robyn
> --
> Robyn Francis
>
> Pathways to sustainability...
> Permaculture Education
> Djanbung Gardens Permaculture
> PO Box 379 Nimbin NSW 2480
> 02-6689 1755 / 0429 147 138
> http://www.permaculture.com.au/
> robyn at permaculture.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:07:15 +1100
> From: "David Arnold" <arnold.vt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Depression?
> To: "permacultue discussion list"
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> yes, we are a different society now.
>
> permaculture is absolutely of use if we apply it to develop local
> community
> that can pull together and give [improved] collective security.
>
> dave
>
>
> On 25/11/2007, Dr Bob Rich <bobrich at bobswriting.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am afraid that if (when!) an economic depression does occur, it
>> will be very different from the 1930s. The level of violent crime
>> then was remarkably low. Now, people have been desensitised by TV,
>> movies and computer games. Then, most people had religion, now...
>> Then, families were whole and provided a support system for many. So,
>> if you are planning, plan for chaos and violence. Permaculture is
>> fine for growing food, but not much use if others come and take the
>> food away by force.
>> :(
>> Bob
>> ---------------------------------------
>> Dr Bob Rich bobrich at mooramoora.org.au
>> http://bobswriting.com/
>> http://anxietyanddepression-help.com/
>> http://mudsmith.net/
>> Commit random acts of kindness.
>> ---------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
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