[Pil-pc-oceania] swale building rebates? APT role?

[tamara griffiths]

I think that rebates are a good idea. And I think you are correct that the 
government won't just take my word that I have dug swales. I think that APT 
could have a role in certification of swale designers. My point is that a 
person that has been trained outside APT should be able to get 
certification. perhaps certification could also be done by providing 
examples of work done.

FWIW, I think that government assistance to farmers should be in the shape 
of swale digging, farm redesigning and on site permaculture training. It is 
vitally important that permaculture is spread, as quickly as possible to all 
farmers and to do this, we need to exert pressure on the government.

I think your swale rebate is a step in the right direction.

Tamara

>From: "Matthew Bond" <mjbond at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: permacultue discussion 
>list<pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>To: pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
>Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] swale building rebates? APT role?
>Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:54:26 +1100
>
>You seem to be missing my point.  I never said it was hard to dig a swale.
>How many excavators and surveyors have got a PDC?  I would say very few.  I
>don't want to preach to the converted, I'm looking to spread the word to
>those who don't know what permaculture is and who really don't care.  What
>speaks to these people who do not have a PDC and have no motivation or
>inclination to get one?  More Business is my answer and more business would
>be created if their profession were offered rebates.  Rebates can only be
>offered if there is some kind of certification process.  The government
>isn't going to take your word that you have built a swale, there needs to 
>be
>a transaction and that transaction needs to take place through a certified
>business.
>
>Matthew.
>
>
>On 20/11/2007, pil-pc-oceania-request at lists.permacultureinternational.org <
>pil-pc-oceania-request at lists.permacultureinternational.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: "tamara griffiths" <scarletwoman at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] swale building rebates? APT role?
> >
> > If you've done a PDC you should be able to dig a swale. Its not that 
>hard.
> >
> > Alot of people that have earth movers actually know what a swale is and
> > how
> > to dig one.
> >
> > I would strenuously object to only APT certified people were able to 
>build
> > swales, as I am a competent builder of them and perfectly able to direct
> > earth moving machinery.
> >
> > I suggest the permaculture people's Party make rebates for swales part 
>of
> > its platform.
> >
> > Tamara
> >
> > Tamara Griffiths
> > 39 Wattle Tree Road
> > Bunyip
> > Victoria 3815
> > 03 5629 5918
> > 0407 45 7707
> > scarletwoman at hotmail.com
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/boodicusducky/
> >


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