[Pil-pc-oceania] Russia's "Private Garden-plot Act" (July 2003)

[Linda Shewan]

Yes the organic organisations have consistently stated it, but mainstream has consistently stated that research proves NO benefit to eating organic. The research is finally verifying what the organics movement has said all along - but not looking back over the past 50 years that's for sure!

But that was not the point of that sentence - I was using it as a way of illustrating that we 'know' some things, regardless of what we are told...

Linda



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Jedd is right, the UK Soil Assoc and NASAA and BFA here in OZ often quote
reports that organic has been proven to be better in scientific terms.

Regarding naming, what I am encouraged by is an increased interest in small
scale local certification where growers rely on being known in their
community as the main form of accreditation.  In other words a bit of a
return to the old days: food that is grown without chemicals AND minimal
food miles

Ian L


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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Linda Shewan wrote:
> Science has always disputed that organics is healthier - but we feel it,
we
> know it intuitively, that science doesn't see the full picture... just
take
> that thinking a little further.

 Has it?

 I thought science was very much on the side of organic (in its
 various guises) being healthier for the end consumer, as well as
 all the players in between.

 I finished reading Michael Pollan's 'The Omnivore's Dilemma' on the
 weekend, and throughout that tome he cites even more recent
 research that's suggesting additional reasons that science is coming
 up with to support the 'organic is healthier' position.

 I still think we need to come up with another name, and probably
 an accompanying measurement system, though.  Organic has been
 diluted / neutered / annexed to the point that it's pretty much a
 misleading appellation now, IMO.

 Jedd.
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