[Pil-pc-oceania] National Pc Day

[Petra Kahle]

Hi Penny,

I understand your frustration about not getting things moving,

and I would say that a national day would be best decided by the  
australian permies,

so, why don't we simply vote on it

and say close the discussion on a month after the last day of APC9?


Graeme George will put a date forward from the trunk of Permaculture  
Melbourne.

Sorry if I repeated anything, I still haven't caught up with the back  
log after the convergence.

Greetings, Petra.


On 01/04/2008, at 10:13 AM, penny pyett wrote:

> The debate about a date for a National Pc day will go on till the  
> cows come home as we will never reach agreement in this way. Shame  
> we couldnt of had more discussion about this at apc9 seeing it was  
> on the program agenda for months leading up to it. I've been  
> involved with this issue since apc8 along with John Champagne who  
> originally proposed it and I feel disappointed and frustrated it  
> continues to be unresolved.
>
> I still propose we make it May 4th each year on Bills birthday in  
> recognition of Bill founding and developing the pc movement, which  
> is after all what we're trying to promote isnt it?  This way we can  
> honour his contribution and remember him into the future. Its also  
> a good time of the year when its not too busy. Enough is already  
> happening in spring for many.
>
> It is impossible to remove personalities from pc and there is no  
> point pretending we can. Id instead propose we acknowledge what  
> each one has offered and appreciate them for who they are. Other  
> days and events could be developed around other personalities  
> (David et al) in the future and national convergences could be used  
> to acknowledge people and their work as mentioned many times before.
>
> What Id really like to know is, does anyone have any suggestions as  
> to how this issue should be resolved? what should be the decision  
> making process for the movement? and who should be involved? Is the  
> movement capable of making a decision? ( I havnt witnessed it yet)  
> Wouldn't convergences be the appropriate forum for such decision  
> making?   (this list serve certainly isn't).  Do we have to wait  
> for yet another convergence which may be years away without a  
> decision?  I don't think so. In view of the circumstances, we need  
> perhaps another way on this issue. Sorry cant wait, I'm moving  
> forward and groups are ready to go with this. Lets declare this 4th  
> May the first National Permaculture Day!
>
>
> Penny
>
>
>
> Penny Pyett
> President 2008 Permaculture North Inc.
> (02) 9888 2575 or 1300 887 145
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