[Pil-pc-oceania] Womens' PDC's

Wed Apr 2 12:07:15 EST 2008

Thanks, Deb,

I should have put in that it was after Robin Clayfield talked about the women's PDC in 84(?) that the idea of having some more came up.

I really admire the women in the past, who have blazed the way for young women like myself. It was wonderful to meet so many of them at APC9 (and to get lots of hugs from them...)

As you say, there is still a need for family friendly PDCs.

More soon,
Love T

From: bocor at bigbutton.com.au
To: pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:15:50 +0930
Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Womens' PDC's

These are not new at all, Lea Harrison(?) taught them in 
the mid 1980's, I'm sure Robin Clayfield has been involved as well. And possibly 
also the other Robins as well, esp those who have taught women PDC's in overseas 
countries.

It was yours truly who suggested a womens workshop at the 
1sr International Permacult Conference at Rollands Plains, near Wauchope, 
NSW in 1984 (or thereabouts).  And wore the mantle of ecofeminist from 
the old patriarch for a while 
afterwards..............memories.............
I raised it as a topic at the first National Permaculture 
confest here in SA in 1983 as well...I still have an audio tape of that in 
a box somewhere. lol.

There is a definite need for PDC's with an emphasis on 
women, as women have a special place and special needs concerning 
nurturing.  I have often found that family-friendly PDC's  are often 
hard to find, there has been a perception with some people that children should 
be left at home with the wife....pity if you are the wife!!  

As I say, such is life without a wife!!  (Handy 
things, wives).

I would be more than happy to help with planning or 
designing a course  in whatever capacity, or to teach a specialist segment, 
or organise someone who can.  My vast library has been mothballed for a 
couple of years now, but is slowly re-emerging into the light over the next few 
months. Also shopping for a four wheel drive van currently, to undertake 
work/study tours in the future.

Cheers
deb

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  From: 
  Tamara Griffiths 
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  Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:21 
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  Kerry wrote:

I really like the idea of a 
    women's PDC - do you think it would have a bit of a different focus? How do 
    you see it playing out?

Hi Kerry,

We came up with the idea 
    at APC9. When I spoke about it to the group alot of women came up and said 
    they were interested in helping. Nadia Lawton has offered to teach it, and 
    Beck Lowe offered to help organise it. I would be the convenor, I 
    suppose.

I haven't caught up with them since APC9 to discuss their 
    ideas, so I have no idea about location, price etc. All I know is that it 
    needs childcare and a good cook! It would be easier for me to convene if it 
    was near Bunyip.

It is hoped that it could be kept pretty cheap, or 
    that perhaps women could be sponsored. (I'm not expecting to make any money 
    on this first one, but I can see this as my life's work and would like to 
    make a living running women's PDCs one day).

It would be taught 
    according to the curriculum, and the focus would probably vary according to 
    the teacher and the students. I would hope to be able to do some practical 
    workshops and talk about life after the PDC, helping women get ready to 
    "jump". I am also interested in getting Robyn Francis to come down at the 
    end of the 2 weeks and do a bridging course to get them to APT cert 3. (I 
    have spoken to her and she is interested in knowing more). So women would 
    end up with 2 qualifications, some practical knowledge and a support network 
    when they get home. I am very into Robin Clayfield's CD at the moment and I 
    can see quite a few mediations and relaxing times - as the PDC is pretty 
    full on!

Perhaps other women could come to the APT bridging course as 
    well.

The whole course might look like:

PDC - Mon - Sat, 
    Sunday off, possibly a tour to the Botanical Ark in Warragul, Mon- Sat 

Mon - Fri bridging, practical and developing a plan for post 
    PDC.

3 weeks is a lot of time to take off work, away from family or 
    land, and probably much harder to do than the regular 2 weeks, but the 
    bridging week coud be optional, I'm not sure, I'll have to judge from the 
    feedback.
The good thing is that there will be childcare during the day 
    and a supportive atmosphere for women who bring their children with 
    them.

I am looking into turning an old house on the swamp that 
    belongs to friends of mine into the women's education centre. There would be 
    some land for us to play with, farm machinery, cows and privacy.

All 
    the teachers would be women, so I'll need to hear from women out there with 
    practical skills in fencing and other good stuff.

Once I have run a 
    few locally, I'd like to run women's PDCs in all states, using local 
    teachers...but that's a while off yet. From little things big things 
    grow...

Anyway, must go and get the animals away,
Love 
    Tamara

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