[Pil-pc-oceania] A Pattern to mimic/Design Methodology required

[ian lillington]

Hi Lawrence, Russ and everyone

The last chapter {#14} of the designers' manual is an interesting essay on this subject,
tho needs updating as it is 20 years old.  Over a number of conversations in the 1990s,
I discussed the idea of permaculture people needing to take chapter 14 and 'flesh it
out' - which some have done in their own ways, but it's not been a coherent [or at least
not very visible process] to me. The APC8 and 9 organisers, in using small groups of 2
or three [troikas] as the main building blocks were taking a leaf from that book

I believe that if permaculture is to have more impact, it does need more focus on the
structures and processes (people stuff) as well as the land-based stuff.  If
permaculture design has NOT reached its limits, I feel the new work [new edges] are in
this area, because [although we could wish for much more of it], permaculture has
proven, demonstrated solutions to [almost] every land-based challenge.  

The people stuff may well be driven, in richer countries, only by fossil fuel becoming
much less available - something that really concentrates the mind and the action....i
liked the review of Albert bates book - thanks Fern.   Seems I will finally have time to
learn to knit.

Ian


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Hi Laurence...
I've seen little conscious design applied to the formation of community
associations. What seems to 


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