[Pil-pc-oceania] thanks Robyn, Russ was zero carbon, zero waste, car-free city in the desert

[Robyn Williamson]

Right on Ian, zero carbon is a furphy for starters, although I'm not  
sure what the closing statement in the "green city" article means:

"We will monetise all carbon emission reductions... Such innovative  
financing has never been applied to the scale of an entire  
city."  ... Masdar City CEO, Sultan al-Jaber
Sounds to me like the same old myth that simply turns carbon into a  
kind of invisible commodity for trading and doesn't sequester one  
single molecule of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere in the  
process.  In fact it probably achieves the opposite by providing  
billion dollar opportunities for technocrats and economic  
rationalists to spin their magic solutions (not) therby giving them a  
licence to continue with grossly over-consumptive lifestyles.

Robyn

On 11/02/2008, at 10:53 PM, ian lillington wrote:

> These techno-solutions are probably not what we need but I enjoy  
> browsing them
> Some of them reappear at http://masg.org.au
> Ian Lillington
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> RussGrayson
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> Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Zero carbon, zero waste, car-free  
> city in the desert
>
> And, in adition to Robyn's pointer below, on the BBC...
>
>
> Fuel-cell cars to get test drive
> Chevrolet Equinox SUV (General Motors)
> The general public can sign up for a test drive online
> A leading car manufacturer is to give drivers the chance to try out
> hydrogen-powered vehicles.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7025738.stm
>
> VIEWPOINT
> Keith Guy
> Sooner or later the world is going to have to make the switch away  
> from
> fossil fuels, says Keith Guy. In this week's Green Room, he  
> explains what
> needs to be done to make the vision of a global hydrogen economy a  
> reality.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7237672.stm
>
>
> Flying clouds the real climate culprit
> Martin Wright
> The aviation industry has become public enemy number one for  
> environmental
> groups, says Martin Wright. But, he argues in this week's Green  
> Room, they
> should focus their efforts on "the real elephant in the room" - forest
> destruction.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7201114.stm
>
> Hydrogen first makes renewables last
> Yorkshire technopark pioneers green hydrogen as energy store
> A business park in south Yorkshire should see the UK¹s first  
> commercial
> hydrogen mini-grid in operation by the end of the year.
> http://www.forumforthefuture.org.uk/greenfutures/
>
>
>
> On 11/2/08 9:07 PM, "Robyn Williamson" <ecogarden at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> BBC news reports on a multi-billion dollar initiative of the city of
>> Abu Dhabi, in partnership with the WWF, to build a green city for
>> 50,000 people and 1,500 businesses within 8 years:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7237672.stm
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