[Pil-pc-oceania] Arabian desert salts
Julie Firth
yilgarn at midwest.com.au
Sat Mar 1 08:43:03 EST 2008
Hi Christoph,
If this helps you, the salt problems I witnessed around the dead sea were
mainly magnesium and calcium rather than sodium.
Kind regards
Julie Firth
Drylands Permaculture Rearch Farm and Education Centre
333 David Rd, Waggrakine
Geraldton, W.A. 6530
Tel. +61 (0) 899 381 628
www.permaculturenursery.com.au
> 1. Re: Permaculture of the Arabian Desert (David Arnold)
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 08:54:12 +1100
> From: "David Arnold" <arnold.vt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Permaculture of the Arabian Desert
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> christoph,
>
> you would have to ask Geoff what he means by this.
>
> dave
>
>
> On 29/02/2008, Christoph Redwitz <latuerlich at gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> There is one very intersting thing in that video (ok, the hole project
>> is impressing ;)). He said, that the salts became inert. how does that
>> work? actually a cant imagine how. But it is great!
>> Christoph
>>
>> Nick Ritar schrieb:
>> > I'd have to recommend Geoff & Nadia Lawton, not only are they highly
>> > experienced in the desert environment they have had quite a bit of
>> > direct experience in the middle east, especially in Jordan. They are
>> > also Muslim and Nadia speaks fluent arabic.
>> >
>> > Here is a link to a project they did some time back
>> > http://www.milkwoodpermaculture.com.au/greening-the-desert.html
>> >
>> > They run the Permaculture Research Institue in Northern NSW their
>> > website is http://permaculture.org.au
>> > Phone: 61 (0)2-66886578, mobile 61 (0) 427862902
>> > email: geoff at permaculture.org.au <mailto:geoff at permaculture.org.au> or
>> > nadia at permaculture.org.au <mailto:nadia at permaculture.org.au>
>> >
>> > They are very busy people and can be a little hard to get hold of at
>> > times... persistence will be rewarded.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Nick
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:58 PM, <stevehart at maxnet.co.nz
>> > <mailto:stevehart at maxnet.co.nz>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Permaculture of the Arabian Desert....I had a good meeting with the
>> > Ministry of Environment Water and Agriculture on tuesday 27th I
>> > would like
>> > to consider the opportunity to offer a full Permaculture Design
>> course
>> > here in United Arab emirates. Is there any teachers with specific
>> and
>> > highly skilled experience in such desert environs that I can call
>> > on
>> > ....Steve Hart
>> >
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>> > > 1. Palestine Permaculture Workshop March 28 ? April 4
>> > > (Wesley Roe and Santa Barbara Permaculture Network)
>> > > 2. GM protest this Thursday Melbourne 12pm parliament steps!
>> > > Don't lift the ban! (Kerry Dawborn)
>> > > 3. Re: Tribute to my dad (Kerry Dawborn)
>> > > 4. Re: Tribute to my dad (Kerry Dawborn)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > > Message: 1
>> > > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:37:08 -0800
>> > > From: Wesley Roe and Santa Barbara Permaculture Network
>> > > <lakinroe at silcom.com <mailto:lakinroe at silcom.com>>
>> > > Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] Palestine Permaculture Workshop March
>> > 28 ?
>> > > April 4
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>> > > Palestine Permaculture Workshop Announcement
>> > >
>> > > March 28 ? April 4
>> > > Marda Village Salfit District, West Bank, Palestine
>> > >
>> > > Join internationally acclaimed Permaculture
>> > > instructors Starhawk, Jan Martin Bang and Murad
>> > > Alkhufash in Marda Village in the West Bank of
>> > > Palestine for an 8-day Permaculture Fundamentals
>> > > Course. Work side-by-side with Palestinian farmers as
>> > > you learn?and apply?permaculture design principles and
>> > > techniques that can be translated to multiple
>> > > environments.
>> > >
>> > > The focus of this workshop?due to extensive loss of
>> > > communal Palestinian farming land and water to Israeli
>> > > settlements?is intensive farming on small acreages.
>> > > Topics addressed will include orchard and garden
>> > > design, natural building with cob and stone,
>> > > traditional Palestinian terrace construction,
>> > > rainwater harvesting and graywater recycling, swales
>> > > and keylines, vermiculture, composting, cover crops,
>> > > bioremediation with mushroom mycelium, chicken
>> > > tractors, and more. Participants can expect to learn
>> > > through hands on projects including planting of an
>> > > orchard and construction of a chicken coop using local
>> > > soils, stone, and straw.
>> > >
>> > > The Marda Permaculture Farm is located within Marda
>> > > village, in the West Bank of Palestine. Marda has a
>> > > population of 2,600, and lies under the shadow of the
>> > > Separation Wall and one of Israel?s largest
>> > > settlements, Ariel. Learn about the on-the-ground
>> > > reality in Palestine?from the people themselves,
>> > > rather than all those who would speak for them.
>> > >
>> > > Instructors
>> > >
>> > > Starhawk is one of the most respected voices in
>> > > earth-based spirituality. She is the author or
>> > > coauthor of ten books, including the classics The
>> > > Spiral Dance and The Fifth Sacred Thing. Her latest
>> > > is Earth Path: Grounding Your Spirit in the Rhythms of
>> > > Nature. Starhawk is a veteran of progressive
>> > > movements, and deeply committed to bringing the
>> > > techniques and creative power of spirituality to
>> > > political activism. She travels internationally
>> > > teaching magic, the tools of ritual, and the skills of
>> > > activism. Her web site is www.starhawk.org
>> > <http://www.starhawk.org>.
>> > >
>> > > Jan Martin Bang is a qualified Permaculture Designer
>> > > and teacher with extensive experience in the Middle
>> > > East, now a co-worker at Camphill Solborg in Norway.
>> > > He was secretary of the Norwegian Permaculture
>> > > Association, and has been active within the Norwegian
>> > > Ecovillage Trust. He is currently on sabbatical leave
>> > > for a year with his wife, Ruth Wilson.
>> > >
>> > > He has written two books on Permaculture Ecovillage
>> > > Design: ?Ecovillages: a practical guide to sustainable
>> > > communities? and ?Growing Eco Communities: practical
>> > > ways to create sustainability.?
>> > >
>> > > Murad Alkhufash comes from a family who has farmed the
>> > > Marda region for at least ten generations. His passion
>> > > is in restoring the connection between his community
>> > > and the land. The people of Marda, as in most West
>> > > Bank villages, have been losing their ties to
>> > > traditional farming methods due to loss of land,
>> > > stress of the occupation as well as pressure to
>> > > transition to synthetic fertilizers and pesticides.
>> > > Murad received his permaculture training and
>> > > certification at the Ecovillage Training Center at The
>> > > Farm in Tennessee and acted as an instructor at this
>> > > Center for four years prior to returning to Marda
>> > > Village to establish the Marda Permaculture Farm.
>> > >
>> > > Cost to attend the Marda Permaculture Fundamentals
>> > > Course is $500, which covers food, lodging, and
>> > > coursework.
>> > >
>> > > For more details, and to apply, please contact:
>> > >
>> > > Tami Brunk
>> > > Marda Farm International Coordinator
>> > > <mailto:tamibrunk%40yahoo.com
>> > <mailto:tamibrunk%40yahoo.com>>tamibrunk at yahoo.com
>> > <mailto:tamibrunk at yahoo.com>
>> > > (505) 243-3080
>> > >
>> > > If you want to build a ship don't herd people together to
>> > collect wood
>> > > and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather
>> > > teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea.
>> > > -Antoine-Marie-Roger de Saint-Exupery
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > Message: 2
>> > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:13:13 +1100
>> > > From: Kerry Dawborn <kj.dawborn at bigpond.com
>> > <mailto:kj.dawborn at bigpond.com>>
>> > > Subject: [Pil-pc-oceania] GM protest this Thursday Melbourne 12pm
>> > > parliament steps! Don't lift the ban!
>> > > To: acox at optusnet.com.au <mailto:acox at optusnet.com.au>,
>> > adam at myspinach.org <mailto:adam at myspinach.org>, Aidan Quick
>> > > <aidanquick at hotmail.com <mailto:aidanquick at hotmail.com>>,
>> > Ali Broome
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>> > lowe <becklowe at bigpond.com <mailto:becklowe at bigpond.com>>,
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>> > <mailto:charlie.davie at envict.org.au>>,
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>> > deborah
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>> > > "g.rhys maddern-wellington" <grmw at melbpc.org.au
>> > <mailto:grmw at melbpc.org.au>>, Geoff Browne
>> > > <GeoffB at brimbank.vic.gov.au
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>> > > <geoff at permaculture.org.au
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>> > Permaculture
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>> > <graeme34 at aanet.com.au <mailto:graeme34 at aanet.com.au>>,
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>> > J&R Nieuwenhuis <rni77753 at bigpond.net.au
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>> > Martha Hills <mrh03049 at yahoo.com
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>> > <mailto:mhwarman at optusnet.com.au>, Michael
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>> > > <pamorgan at netspace.net.au
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>> > <telopeamtn at bigpond.com <mailto:telopeamtn at bigpond.com>>,
>> > > Peter Dawborn <Peter.Dawborn at tafe.tas.edu.au
>> > <mailto:Peter.Dawborn at tafe.tas.edu.au>>, Richard Bolus
>> > > <richard.bolus at greencanary.com
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>> > <mailto:willunga.dawborn at bigpond.com>>, Robert Nieuwenhuis
>> > > <rnieuwenhuis at terrafirma.com.au
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>> > > <rrcurrie at optusnet.com.au
>> > <mailto:rrcurrie at optusnet.com.au>>, Rosemary Johnson
>> > > <rosemaryjohnson at aanet.com.au
>> > <mailto:rosemaryjohnson at aanet.com.au>>, Sally Djurovich
>> > > <mustangsal193 at hotmail.com
>> > <mailto:mustangsal193 at hotmail.com>>, scarletwoman at hotmail.com
>> > <mailto:scarletwoman at hotmail.com>, simon woodland
>> > > <simbin at mooramoora.org.au
>> > <mailto:simbin at mooramoora.org.au>>, Stephen Ingrouille
>> > > <steve at goingsolar.com.au
>> > <mailto:steve at goingsolar.com.au>>, steven turner
>> > <aquacray at virtual.net.au <mailto:aquacray at virtual.net.au>>,
>> > > Stuart Pougher <spougher at hotmail.com
>> > <mailto:spougher at hotmail.com>>, stuart ryder & luna white
>> > > <stupooh72 at yahoo.co.au <mailto:stupooh72 at yahoo.co.au>>,
>> > Sue Van Graas <saargnav at netspace.net.au
>> > <mailto:saargnav at netspace.net.au>>,
>> > > vanessa wighton <di_vaness at yahoo.com.au
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>> > <mailto:info at wonderfulworldmedia.net>>, Virginia Solomon
>> > > <vsolomon at elthamcollege.vic.edu.au
>> > <mailto:vsolomon at elthamcollege.vic.edu.au>>, Virginia Solomon
>> > > <vsolomon at netspace.net.au
>> > <mailto:vsolomon at netspace.net.au>>, yrenviro at yahoogroups.com.au
>> > <mailto:yrenviro at yahoogroups.com.au>, oceania list
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>> > >
>> > > Hi Friends,
>> > >
>> > > If you live in or near melbourne, or have friends or family who
>> > do and
>> > > are concerned about GM crops and don't want the ban in Victoria
>> > to be
>> > > lifted this friday Feb 29th, come along to the GM-Free Rally at
>> 12pm
>> > > this Thursday on the Parliament House steps in Melbourne.
>> > >
>> > > For more information go to:
>> > >
>> > > http://geneethics.org/calendar/display/20080228
>> > >
>> > > I'll be there - come along and make your views known loudly and
>> > clearly!
>> > > Oh, and don't forget to forward this info to friends and family!
>> > >
>> > > See you there!
>> > >
>> > > Kerry Dawborn
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------
>> > >
>> > > Message: 3
>> > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:09:01 +1100
>> > > From: Kerry Dawborn <kj.dawborn at bigpond.com
>> > <mailto:kj.dawborn at bigpond.com>>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Tribute to my dad
>> > > To: permacultue discussion list
>> > > <pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
>> > <mailto:pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>>
>> > > Message-ID: <47C552DD.9040209 at bigpond.com
>> > <mailto:47C552DD.9040209 at bigpond.com>>
>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> > >
>> > > Wow Fern - thanks for sharing that... Sounds like your dad was an
>> > > interesting, thoughtful man. Your eulogy has brought tears to my
>> > eyes...
>> > >
>> > > Kerry Dawborn
>> > >
>> > > Fern Rainbow wrote:
>> > >> My dad's service, a celebration of his life will be held at the
>> > >> Warrnambool
>> > >> Special Developmental School hall this Thursday, February 28th
>> > at 5pm.
>> > >> I'd like to thank the many permies on this listserv who have
>> > emailed me
>> > >> their support & help during the last few weeks. As none of you
>> > know
>> > >> dad,
>> > >> I'd like to post some info and photos of my dad.
>> > >> Firstly, this is my contribution and what I'll be reading out,
>> > near the
>> > >> end
>> > >> of his service. I'll post the full service and photos in the
>> > coming
>> > >> weeks.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Tribute to my dad ? Peter Thomas Ockerby
>> > >>
>> > >> Dad was an environmentalist, scientist and teacher.
>> > >> He was part of a research team at the University of Toronto in
>> > the early
>> > >> 1960?s looking into the declining aquatic life in the Great
>> > Lakes. They
>> > >> were studying the water currents. When their research pointed
>> > to
>> > >> pollution
>> > >> due to the heated waste-water being pumped from the nearby
>> > Nuclear power
>> > >> plant, all their research and funding disappeared.
>> > >>
>> > >> Dad then obtained his teaching qualifications and started
>> teaching
>> > >> science
>> > >> in Canada. Deeply concerned about environmental issues, he
>> > tried to
>> > >> teach
>> > >> what was then called ?the hot-house effect? but was reprimanded
>> for
>> > >> teaching
>> > >> this theory. [He was also not allowed to teach Hubbard's peak
>> oil
>> > >> theory, a
>> > >> well known but controversial scientific paper in the 1960?s]
>> > >>
>> > >> After his mother died, Dad moved back to Australia and started
>> > teaching
>> > >> at
>> > >> Melbourne Boys High (the school that he was educated at). Dad
>> > was a
>> > >> very
>> > >> patient and well-liked teacher. He liked teaching at nice small
>> > >> secondary
>> > >> schools in rural areas and stayed teaching full time until his
>> > >> retirement at
>> > >> 60 years of age.
>> > >>
>> > >> In 1969 he met then married my mum the year after. They were
>> > both avid
>> > >> organic gardeners and shared their love of nature and care of
>> > the
>> > >> environment. Really they were permaculturists before the word
>> > >> ?Permaculture? existed, and we always had a menagerie of
>> > animals that
>> > >> helped
>> > >> our edible jungle-like garden grow and vice-versa.
>> > >> >From the early 70?s, they started to look for land to share
>> > nature with
>> > >> like-minded people and to bring up their children with a free
>> > and
>> > >> healthy
>> > >> lifestyle. In 1974 they were part of the formation of
>> > >> ?Irun-ilam-baluk?, a
>> > >> land co-operative in the Strathbogie ranges based on Peter
>> > Cook?s design
>> > >> of
>> > >> Moora Moora co-operative. There they started building their
>> > >> self-sufficient
>> > >> home out in the bush. They were full of ideals, hopes and
>> dreams.
>> > >> But working on the co-operative, building their home and living
>> > out of a
>> > >> caravan with five children in a harsh environment created
>> > strains within
>> > >> my
>> > >> parent?s relationship. Their break up started in 1975 and ended
>> > with a
>> > >> divorce in 1982. Although they spent my childhood apart, I
>> > have fond
>> > >> memories of visiting dad; going yabbying, visiting the
>> > butterfly house
>> > >> at
>> > >> Melbourne zoo and dad reading ?The hobbit? to me when I was
>> > sick and in
>> > >> bed.
>> > >>
>> > >> My parents got back together again when I was 15 and had Davin,
>> my
>> > >> younger
>> > >> brother who is autistic. For the past 15 years while my
>> > parents have
>> > >> dedicated their lives to looking after Davin, they have
>> > maintained an
>> > >> edible
>> > >> garden and implemented energy efficient designs and systems
>> > within their
>> > >> urban home. In the past two years, since moving to a smaller
>> > home they
>> > >> have
>> > >> been retrofitting it; putting on solar panels, tiling the floor
>> to
>> > >> create a
>> > >> heat bank, putting in a water tank, edible garden and fruit
>> > trees, with
>> > >> plans for a greywater system and chook house.
>> > >>
>> > >> Dad always said to just put him in the compost when he died and
>> > mum &
>> > >> dad
>> > >> hadn?t discussed anything else. But dad had seen the 100%
>> recycled
>> > >> cardboard eco-coffins in Choice magazine last year and had
>> > thought it to
>> > >> be
>> > >> such a good idea. Dad would?ve wanted his departure to be as
>> > low as
>> > >> impact
>> > >> upon the earth as possible.
>> > >>
>> > >> He wanted a safe and secure future for his children and for
>> earth?s
>> > >> biodiversity. He wanted the Victorian state government to
>> > extend the
>> > >> ban on
>> > >> GM crops and for all GM ingredients to be labelled on our food.
>> He
>> > >> wanted
>> > >> Australia to be GM-free.
>> > >> On this final day before the GM moratorium is set to be lifted
>> > in
>> > >> Victoria,
>> > >> we hope that somehow dad?s wishes will be granted and that
>> > premier John
>> > >> Brumby will rethink the state governments decision to lift the
>> ban.
>> > >>
>> > >> My parent?s love of nature and care of the environment has been
>> > imparted
>> > >> to
>> > >> me, not only by my nature name ?Fern Rainbow?, that they gave
>> > to me, but
>> > >> also imprinted in my knowledge, ethics and lifestyle and for
>> > this I am
>> > >> eternally grateful. Thank you dad. You are in my heart and
>> > forever
>> > >> will
>> > >> be.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Music-----Big Yellow Taxi,
>> > >> Both sides now, ------Joni Mitchell
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> Pil-pc-oceania mailing list
>> > >> Pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
>> > <mailto:Pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>> > >> http://jasper.cmsarchitects.com/mailman/listinfo/pil-pc-oceania
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------
>> > >
>> > > Message: 4
>> > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:27:52 +1100
>> > > From: Kerry Dawborn <kj.dawborn at bigpond.com
>> > <mailto:kj.dawborn at bigpond.com>>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Pil-pc-oceania] Tribute to my dad
>> > > To: oceania list latest
>> > > <pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
>> > <mailto:pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>>
>> > > Message-ID: <47C55748.8010000 at bigpond.com
>> > <mailto:47C55748.8010000 at bigpond.com>>
>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> > >
>> > > Wow Fern - thanks for sharing that... Sounds like your dad was a
>> > really
>> > > interesting, thoughtful man. Clearly his positive influence on
>> > you has
>> > > been extremely strong... Your eulogy has brought tears to my
>> eyes...
>> > >
>> > > Kerry Dawborn
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Fern Rainbow wrote:
>> > >> My dad's service, a celebration of his life will be held at the
>> > >> Warrnambool
>> > >> Special Developmental School hall this Thursday, February 28th
>> > at 5pm.
>> > >> I'd like to thank the many permies on this listserv who have
>> > emailed me
>> > >> their support & help during the last few weeks. As none of you
>> > know
>> > >> dad,
>> > >> I'd like to post some info and photos of my dad.
>> > >> Firstly, this is my contribution and what I'll be reading out,
>> > near the
>> > >> end
>> > >> of his service. I'll post the full service and photos in the
>> > coming
>> > >> weeks.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Tribute to my dad ? Peter Thomas Ockerby
>> > >>
>> > >> Dad was an environmentalist, scientist and teacher.
>> > >> He was part of a research team at the University of Toronto in
>> > the early
>> > >> 1960?s looking into the declining aquatic life in the Great
>> > Lakes. They
>> > >> were studying the water currents. When their research pointed
>> > to
>> > >> pollution
>> > >> due to the heated waste-water being pumped from the nearby
>> > Nuclear power
>> > >> plant, all their research and funding disappeared.
>> > >>
>> > >> Dad then obtained his teaching qualifications and started
>> teaching
>> > >> science
>> > >> in Canada. Deeply concerned about environmental issues, he
>> > tried to
>> > >> teach
>> > >> what was then called ?the hot-house effect? but was reprimanded
>> for
>> > >> teaching
>> > >> this theory. [He was also not allowed to teach Hubbard's peak
>> oil
>> > >> theory, a
>> > >> well known but controversial scientific paper in the 1960?s]
>> > >>
>> > >> After his mother died, Dad moved back to Australia and started
>> > teaching
>> > >> at
>> > >> Melbourne Boys High (the school that he was educated at). Dad
>> > was a
>> > >> very
>> > >> patient and well-liked teacher. He liked teaching at nice small
>> > >> secondary
>> > >> schools in rural areas and stayed teaching full time until his
>> > >> retirement at
>> > >> 60 years of age.
>> > >>
>> > >> In 1969 he met then married my mum the year after. They were
>> > both avid
>> > >> organic gardeners and shared their love of nature and care of
>> > the
>> > >> environment. Really they were permaculturists before the word
>> > >> ?Permaculture? existed, and we always had a menagerie of
>> > animals that
>> > >> helped
>> > >> our edible jungle-like garden grow and vice-versa.
>> > >> >From the early 70?s, they started to look for land to share
>> > nature with
>> > >> like-minded people and to bring up their children with a free
>> > and
>> > >> healthy
>> > >> lifestyle. In 1974 they were part of the formation of
>> > >> ?Irun-ilam-baluk?, a
>> > >> land co-operative in the Strathbogie ranges based on Peter
>> > Cook?s design
>> > >> of
>> > >> Moora Moora co-operative. There they started building their
>> > >> self-sufficient
>> > >> home out in the bush. They were full of ideals, hopes and
>> dreams.
>> > >> But working on the co-operative, building their home and living
>> > out of a
>> > >> caravan with five children in a harsh environment created
>> > strains within
>> > >> my
>> > >> parent?s relationship. Their break up started in 1975 and ended
>> > with a
>> > >> divorce in 1982. Although they spent my childhood apart, I
>> > have fond
>> > >> memories of visiting dad; going yabbying, visiting the
>> > butterfly house
>> > >> at
>> > >> Melbourne zoo and dad reading ?The hobbit? to me when I was
>> > sick and in
>> > >> bed.
>> > >>
>> > >> My parents got back together again when I was 15 and had Davin,
>> my
>> > >> younger
>> > >> brother who is autistic. For the past 15 years while my
>> > parents have
>> > >> dedicated their lives to looking after Davin, they have
>> > maintained an
>> > >> edible
>> > >> garden and implemented energy efficient designs and systems
>> > within their
>> > >> urban home. In the past two years, since moving to a smaller
>> > home they
>> > >> have
>> > >> been retrofitting it; putting on solar panels, tiling the floor
>> to
>> > >> create a
>> > >> heat bank, putting in a water tank, edible garden and fruit
>> > trees, with
>> > >> plans for a greywater system and chook house.
>> > >>
>> > >> Dad always said to just put him in the compost when he died and
>> > mum &
>> > >> dad
>> > >> hadn?t discussed anything else. But dad had seen the 100%
>> recycled
>> > >> cardboard eco-coffins in Choice magazine last year and had
>> > thought it to
>> > >> be
>> > >> such a good idea. Dad would?ve wanted his departure to be as
>> > low as
>> > >> impact
>> > >> upon the earth as possible.
>> > >>
>> > >> He wanted a safe and secure future for his children and for
>> earth?s
>> > >> biodiversity. He wanted the Victorian state government to
>> > extend the
>> > >> ban on
>> > >> GM crops and for all GM ingredients to be labelled on our food.
>> He
>> > >> wanted
>> > >> Australia to be GM-free.
>> > >> On this final day before the GM moratorium is set to be lifted
>> > in
>> > >> Victoria,
>> > >> we hope that somehow dad?s wishes will be granted and that
>> > premier John
>> > >> Brumby will rethink the state governments decision to lift the
>> ban.
>> > >>
>> > >> My parent?s love of nature and care of the environment has been
>> > imparted
>> > >> to
>> > >> me, not only by my nature name ?Fern Rainbow?, that they gave
>> > to me, but
>> > >> also imprinted in my knowledge, ethics and lifestyle and for
>> > this I am
>> > >> eternally grateful. Thank you dad. You are in my heart and
>> > forever
>> > >> will
>> > >> be.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Music-----Big Yellow Taxi,
>> > >> Both sides now, ------Joni Mitchell
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> Pil-pc-oceania mailing list
>> > >> Pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org
>> > <mailto:Pil-pc-oceania at lists.permacultureinternational.org>
>> > >> http://jasper.cmsarchitects.com/mailman/listinfo/pil-pc-oceania
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
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