[Pil-pc-oceania] GM may spread to weeds? Great!

[Ronnie Coleman]

Hi Graeme,

I was trying to be succinct in my email & so I didn't go into great depth
re: Permaculture but I do understand it. I actually did a PDC that was run
by David Holmgren November 2007 & had the priviledge of speaking with him &
visiting his farm.

I felt my examples of Solar Hot Water, Solar Electricity, rain water storage
& grey water systems reflected the Permaculture Principles of:


   - Catch & Store Energy
   - Use & Value renewable resources
   - Produce no waste

Kind Regards,

r0tiNeK



On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Graeme George <earthcarepc at virtual.net.au>
wrote:

>
> On 08/03/2008, at 9:31 PM, Ronnie Coleman wrote:
>
> So there will be good things that arise from Post Peak Oil, -but you must
> work hard NOW to establish yourself & Family/Community to be more
> self-sufficient and independent (Solar Hot Water system, Solar Electricity
> of some capacity, rain-water storage, grey water systems, Permaculture).
>
> >
> >
> Ronnie - I am surprised to see a statement like the above on a
> permaculture discussion listserv. All of the elements you list are a part of
> a good permaculture design. Permaculture isn't something separate that you
> add on at the end - it's the design process by which you put all these
> things together to develop a sustainable system. If by "permaculture" you
> mean a food garden, then please call it a food garden and helps us all
> overcome the all-too-common misconception that permaculture is only about
> gardening. To get a 21st century view of Permaculture I suggest you have a
> look at David Holmgren's *Permaculture Principles and Pathways Beyond
> Sustainability.*
>
> Graeme George
> *Earthcare Permaculture*
> 35 Deering Ave, Healesville, Vic, 3777
>
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